Obscenity laws have been changed to allow distribution of BDSM and fetish porn

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''Pornography depicting a number of previously banned sex acts has been made legal in the UK after a review of obscenity laws.

Essentially, sex acts that are not illegal in another context can now be shown in pornography.''

''Certain types of violent porn are now permitted so long as the sex acts are consensual (focusing on ‘full and freely exercised consent’,) do not cause serious harm to participants, are not ‘inextricably linked with other criminality’ and are not likely to be viewed by anyone under the age of 18.''

uk.news.yahoo.com/violent-porn-including-bdsm-no-longer-illegal-uk-long-performers-consenting-155930303.html?_guc_consent_skip=1548958244

agree, I think it might seem that way because men are more likely to openly talk about porn use whereas women users may keep their usage quiet

traceyracer, yep. I'm male but ex gf's or partners have usually mentioned they watched porn at least sometimes.

That's not what I said.

Anyway, here's a graph showing that the regular consumers of porn are overwhelmingly men. At least by volume, I bet 95% is not far off

How are those stats reported/recorded? (note: I don't believe them). I've had a fair few partners as well as very open female friends and i can only think of one or two who that i discussed this with who said they didn't watch porn.

Also, I agree that a lot of porn is rubbish and can even be harmful (to both men and women).

Tell you what, work, why don't you go and find some reliable stats showing women watch porn at anything like comparable rates to men. I would be interested if you can.

I've had a fair few partners as well as very open female friends and i can only think of one or two who that i discussed this with who said they didn't watch porn.

Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe your attitude means that the women who don’t watch it just wouldn’t bring it up.
If a discussion about porn comes up with a man and they are obviously pro porn I just smile and nod. There’s very little point in saying ‘no I don’t watch it and I hate it’, because you are just immediately dismissed as a prude and the man will never, ever let it go.

Also I know lots of women who say they watch porn because they think it’s a normal thing to do and don’t want to appear like a prude. What women say to men and what they say to women about such matters are usually different.

Obviously I understand that some women watch it and enjoy it but I think you’re wrong about the numbers.

Many women watch porn with male partners
That they migth not watch by themselves

Many women have seen porn, which is different to activeyl watching it

I thought other sorts of content were preferred by women generally eg written material

Of course some women watch it -

The assertion from men that it's loads I have to throw in why the fuck are men always so confident to assert what women do and don't do, even when handed evidence to the contrary? Rhetorical question

Reminds me of the men who say

Oh but women are just as violent as men it's a people issue
Don't be sexist
Women rape too!

Erm rigth whatever.

This idea that women watching porn is ubiquitous is nonsense

I thin propagated by those to whom older women are invisible.

What % or women over 65 watch porn for eg?

It's common is it?

When these people say everyone watches it they mean younger poeple

Older people are invisible

is porn watching really super common in men aged 80+? As common as for young men?
Nah not buying it.

I have never watched porn, nor has DH. I once accidentally saw some, as I was in a pub as a teenager, the pub had a lock in, and the landlord put on a porn video.
it was behind me and when I turned round I had a huge shock, I was about 16, and a virgin, as was my best friend who was with me, so it was extra Ugggh as I think the landlord must have suspected how young we were. My closest female friends have never watched porn either. We are all early fifties-ish.

How does a 9 year old child have access to porn? Dont most kids have a smart phone now? Their friends?

Parents, who like on a thread on here about getting a mobile phone for an 8/9 year old are all too trusting that they can trust what their kids are doing on their phones because they check them at night. I don't know if theyre being willfully ignorant that kids can and do delete/hide stuff before mam checks. Scary.

Also even if you are careful there are kids at school who can show them the content
Or older siblings

It's naive to say how do they see it? Any device and hardcore content is a click away

Yep, I agree.

All the same, when the court was shown the second video – genital mutilations, eviscerations, exploding testicles – there were ashen faces all round. And so Holland’s barrister took him off into a side room. After a brief discussion, Holland pleaded guilty and prepared to receive his sentence and the strong possibility of time in jail.

Sexy, eh? Definitely all about the "feminist" face sitting, how ever could any of you prudes object?

Over a celebratory and comprehensive roast lunch, he expanded further: his grand ambition, he revealed, was actually a Sexual Relations Act – much like the Race Relations Act – something, he said, “that enshrines the idea that people’s private sexuality should not be held against them in any way, whether it’s criminal, civil, for intelligence purposes, or whatever”.

What if someone's "private sexuality" is that they like raping people?

Strangling??? When people, mostly women, are dying from this type of sex, how is this responsible? "Bodily autonomy" ? feminist ? It does not only affect you it affects those watching and the people they have sex with, including young people/teens.
idk why anyone would want to be "fisted" either, seems more like violence.

"Pornography depicting a number of previously banned sex acts has been made legal in England after a review of obscenity laws.

Essentially, sex acts that are not illegal in another context can now be shown in pornography.

Certain types of violent porn are now permitted so long as the sex acts are consensual (focusing on ‘full and freely exercised consent’,) do not cause serious harm to participants, are not ‘inextricably linked with other criminality’ and are not likely to be viewed by anyone under the age of 18.

Obscenity lawyer Myles Jackman, who has campaigned for these changes for a number of years, told Yahoo News UK that the change had wider implications for the law.

He said: “It is a very impressive that they’ve introduced the idea of full and freely exercised consent in the law.

“Even for people with no interest in pornography this is very important for consent and bodily autonomy.”

Activist and queer porn filmmaker Pandora Blake, who also campaigned to have the ban on the depiction of certain sex acts overturned, called the news a ‘welcome improvement’.

They said: “This is a happy day for queer, feminist and fetish porn.”

Acts that were banned that can now be depicted include:

Spanking
BDSM
Female ejaculation
Urinating (also known as watersports)
Strangling
Face-sitting
Fisting
Humiliation
In 2014 laws were altered to ban pornography created in the UK from showing certain sex acts, sparking accusations of censorship particularly targeting female pleasure.

The laws also failed to distinguish between consensual and non-consensual acts, particularly when force or humiliation were involved.

UK viewers could still view pornography of this type created elsewhere in the world.

When the ban was brought in, Mr Jackman said: “Pornography is the canary in the coalmine of free speech: it is the first freedom to die. If this assault on liberty is allowed to go unchallenged, other freedoms will fall as a consequence.

“This declaration of State censorship will affect millions of consenting adults who choose to view British pornography; impose an unnecessary trade barrier, which has already caused independent UK producers to shut down; result in a significant loss of revenue to The Treasury; is practically unworkable as it can be circumvented by proxy servers; and has implications for all forms of freedom of expression on the internet.

“Of particular concern in terms of loss of freedom is the underlying intent to allow undesirable foreign websites to be blocked under UK ISP’s filtering systems. This has immeasurable implications on freedom of information and net neutrality.”

Would this be allowed ? :

TRIGGER WARNING ⚠️

"I was shocked with cattle prods, beat until I would cry so much I couldn’t breathe, given bruises that would take months to heal, and asphyxiated with plastic bags that the producer would urinate into."

fightthenewdrug.org/real-confessions-from-a-bdsm-porn-performer/

"When the ban was brought in, Mr Jackman said: “...... "This declaration of State censorship will affect millions of consenting adults who choose to view British pornography; impose an unnecessary trade barrier, which has already caused independent UK producers to shut down; result in a significant loss of revenue to The Treasury; i"

Moneyyy

Porn doesn't have a 'massively damaging effect'. This bullshit has been peddled for decades and the motivation of those in authority who spread it has always been the same: justification for increasing control and surveillance.

Disingenuous to say the least. The nature of porn has changed dramatically. Just 20 years ago the amount of porn that included depictions of women being humiliated, degraded, abused, coerced, raped or tortured made up a tiny percentage of easily accessible porn. Today that percentage is the vast majority of online porn, I've seen figures as high as 95% quoted.

This newly dominant nature of violent, woman-hating porn is why it is having a measurable effect on the quality of relationships amongst teens and young adults, why the percentage of girls and young women who report being hurt by their boyfriends has doubled, why the advice columns in teen magazines are no longer about saying no if a girl doesn't want to do something in bed but about how to do it even if it hurts.

And that second point, that those who oppose porn because it is harmful to women are those in authority is also a nonsense. That is an argument made by feminists. Who have not yet been in the position of being in power in the UK.

And there are a great many studies now on the damaging nature of porn. The website Your Brain on Porn not only has extensive archives on research into porn, it also has dedicated articles critiquing cherry-picked studies and talking points of pro-porn propagandists.

For those who like to know more, here is a good video laying out the tactics employed by such people.

Fine by me if it is consensual.

Ring that's the defence for 'rough sex' murders. It was consensual M'Lord, she loved it....I bet she did, yep I think she dreamt about her slow and painful death.

People have explained what the issue is. RTFT.

How do you think this stuff affects those watching it? How many times have I read that rapists and sexually motivated murders have been done by men who have been watching this violent porn, sometimes watched it the same day RIGHT BEFORE they attack. I read and hear about it time and time again. They have been motivated by this porn to seek out women to attack.
This stuff:
"With just a two-word search on Google, we pulled up these top titles in less than 10 seconds:

4 men shut this girl up strip and rape her hard

Ebony girl stopped at the wrong road to take a pee and gets brutally raped in the bushes

Housewife gets raped by the repairman

Forced sex action starring real rapists and their victims

Virgin gang raped (anal bondage rape)

Met girl at party, but she does not want to f—? Call friends and organize forced gangbang with this b—!

Father rapes his sexy daughter in the bathroom

Read through that list one more time. Yep, those are real porn titles that portray scripted versions of horrific incidents that over 3.3 million US women have been through. But it doesn’t stop there—there are thousands, if not millions, more just like these videos."

fightthenewdrug.org/1-in-16-u-s-women-report-being-raped-during-first-sex-encounter/

Yes much more like this and worse.

And women and men who die from extreme practices, whether consensual or coerced. Some of these practices - choking/strangling/cutting off breath are mainstream now and being tweeted about by teens online.
Just 2 example of many teens/women who died from this , after men watch this porn www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-40670225
metro.co.uk/2018/03/12/man-choked-woman-20-death-sex-night-7382343/ by the way, when searching for an example of these incidents my search engine brought up many links to porn videos with titles such as "girl choked to death" as if it's erotic.

Choked to death with cords, dog leads: www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jul/25/fatal-hateful-rise-of-choking-during-sex

If you think this is empowering at all for performers, look how these porn actors are living despite having currently top listed videos

fightthenewdrug.org/top-porn-performer-found-living-in-las-vegas-tunnels-3-years-after-leaving-the-industry/

Mia khalifa is the second most watched on pornhub apparently , was exploited and made very little money. Does not continue to make money from her videos which are still making money for the websites they're on, and still being remixed and remade without her consent. fightthenewdrug.org/mia-khalifas-porn-experience-is-further-proof/

There's a song about Mia Khalifa. My son was singing it all the time when he was 11. He didn't know who she was but I Googled.
I am very, very angry about the depravity I have to try to protect him from nowadays.
It's not fucking feminist SGB, get a grip.
Even grown men I am close to don't want porn anymore as it's got too extreme, too mysoginistic, too violent. My husband said to me " when you have a girl being shagged by 4 men, it looks like violence not sex." That's how it's presented in porn. How is all of this shit bring allowed? Not very long ago hardcore porn was illegal in the UK. Who decided abuse of girls and women is now legal to film? Not me. I didn't consent to this. My daughter and neices don't consent to this.