Hi, I'm Liz the Glitch! Ask me anything.

[glitchliz]

The thread I wrote about attending Posie Parker's panel on gender identity and social media has attracted a lot of attention, and I thought it might be good to establish more of a dialogue. Ask me anything!

Also, to get this one out of the way: my babysitting rates are £15/hr, plus flights, and I'll provide a clean CRB check 😂

I have a question:

Do you think if two transwomen who are still in possession of their penises’ get it on, that it would be lesbian sex?

Great that it’s back up MNHQ!

liz I’d be interested in an answer to my post at 11:33. I’ll summarise.

Did you actually feel unsafe in the room ?
If so why, given that GC feminists are non violent and have never attacked anyone?

I’m interested in how the language of ‘fear’ and ‘you want us to not exist’ works. Do you think it creates a psychological fragility?

And if you were just holding that baseball bat, which was actually marketed as a weapon for attacking women like me, and saying it was just to show it’s existence, do you accept that I can wear an adult human human female t shirt and that isn’t threatening to you?

Oh and one more - do you believe humans can change sex?

Favourite biscuit?
Chocolate-covered hobnobs.

Why were you wearing two pairs of knickers in that selfie you posted? That sort of thing can give you thrush!
One pair, two-toned :) some trans women do indeed wear two pairs of underwear in order to keep everything contained, and I've worn two on occasion mainly because I have one pair that won't really stay up unassisted and it seems a shame to throw them out just for that.

Has a woman ever threatened you (not your self-esteem, but your person)?

Yes. I don't want to talk about it.

What should society do about male violence towards women and girls?

Great question. Personally, I would look to introduce education on consent and healthy relationships from an early age, as well as reforming the criminal justice system to address the shockingly poor conviction rate for rape and sexual assault cases. I'm not a sociologist, or a politician, or a policy wonk, but those two strategies seem like good places to start. Ultimately it's an enormous problem in the UK/US that requires a fundamental restructuring of society's perceptions of womanhood.

Also, there are a lot of questions, and I have to work, so it may take me a while to address the backlog. Apologies, everyone!

Liz

Given that women and girls around the world and throughout history are abused and oppressed for the simple fact that they have a vagina; how is it misogynistic to "boil womanhood down to vagina ownership?" I genuinely do not understand this view point and really would like you to explain this.

Welcome back

I'm happy to accept as women anyone who describes themselves as one

A couple of questions spring from this,

1. Why? Can you explain your reasoning?

1. Do you have a different biological definition of woman? There’s a clear biological definition - adult human female, where female is of the class that produces immobile gametes (note of the class, the infertility of an individual is irrelevant.) do you accept or deny this definition and why?

Welcome Back Liz.

Interested in this point: Ultimately it's an enormous problem in the UK/US that requires a fundamental restructuring of society's perceptions of womanhood.

Could you go into more detail on that? Because I think it's much more about addressing male behaviour - but maybe you meant that in the 'perceptions' bit?

Oooh.

Liz:

What is the difference in your opinion between sex and gender?

I wonder if there are some semantic issues here.

@Bowlofbabelfish

I think I can related to the "fear" element that @glitchliz talks about.

I feel "the fear" when ever I wear my "women adult female " sticker (too scared to wear the full T-shirt).

I'm not actually afraid of violence, I'm afraid of confrontation and judgement.

This debate has got so heated and fear filled on both sides.

I suppose it's also worth pointing out that actual fear of violence from men is something women have always had to deal with on a day to day basis, and those who are "new to being a woman" may not immediately understand/appreciate this.

I'm terrified to use my adult human tote.

Which is ridiculous.

The old favourite: do you think it is possible for a human being to change sex (not gender or gender identity, but sex)?

Yes.

This is literally the main thing GC feminists are talking about. The main is the earth flat crux of the debate.

Oh bloody well done, @MNHQ Excellent decision.

Liz, thank you for returning. I appreciate that you have a life outside the interwebs, as do we all, so I'll not badger you, but when you have time, if you could say what you think the GC position is I think it would be really helpful to prevent talking at cross purposes.

I have a question.

If being a woman means feeling like a woman and biology has nothing to do with it. What is the name for the people who are born of the sex class who gestate the young. Do you think these people have a right to speak about the issues that only affect them and organise themselves into a movement to represent their rights?

Well done @mnhq for reinstating.
Glad you came back @glitchliz, looking forward to an interesting discussion.

Do you think women need the constant threat (or implied threat) of violence to keep them from getting ideas above themselves?

Do you think you are more intelligent than the average woman?

Since you mentioned violence against women. What is your view on allowing violent men to socially 'transition' in the hope of being moved to a women's prison?

@lizglitch
As you posted the screenshot of your email from mnhq on twitter with the caption 'womp womp' (whatever that means) will you now go back on twitter and acknowledge that mumsnetters are actually trying to engage with you in good faith and want to have the conversation with you? Thanks

As you posted the screenshot of your email from mnhq on twitter with the caption 'womp womp' (whatever that means) will you now go back on twitter and acknowledge that mumsnetters are actually trying to engage with you in good faith and want to have the conversation with you? Thanks

I did so here:

twitter.com/glitchliz/status/1090600758955913216?s=21

Why do you say the problem of male violence "requires a fundamental restructuring of society's perception of womanhood?"

What is "womanhood" and what's it got to do with the appalling way in which men behave?

What do you think about the tens if thousands of young children who will grow up requiring a life time of medicalisation and be infertole , because they have bought into the very trendy trans cult?

What words would you use to describe members of the two biological sexes, should you be asked to explain human reproduction?

I think most accept based on chromosomes rather than how people present.

I'm not really able to determine anyone's chromosomal makeup, I'm not trained in karyotyping and don't normally have the time when I'm introduced to someone :)

So in your opinion a woman is a descriptive word and not much else?
What does it describe exactly, if not sex and not presentation?

'Woman' is a noun, and 'adult human female' is a fine definition as far as I'm concerned - it doesn't exclude trans women.

And would you now describe us as a hate group?

I don't think that the gender critical camp is uniform enough to be described as a 'group', but I do think a number of your views are uninformed at best, hateful at worst.

So another question; do you think we are stupid?

On the contrary, I wouldn't be here if I did.

So now you know you have been lied to, what will you do to dispel that lie withing your group?

As you can see, I've been public with everything associated with this, and people can decide for themselves. Best I can do is give everything air - as someone else said on this thread, sunlight is the best disinfectant :)

Did you take your empowerment bat on your foray into gc meetings?

That would be threatening! Nope, it stays by the bed.

Do you realise the if self ID remove the medical element of Gender Disphoria the people with it are going to lose their already very inadequate but much needed mental health support?
Do you understand why we (including the transsexuals here) are fighting to keep this in place?

Do you think you're female?