Jean Hatchet, new blog post

[SugarPlumFairy99]

jeanhatchet.blogspot.com/2019/01/why-i-wont-be-standing-up-for-women.html

This blog post from Jean is eye-opening. Working alongside anti-abortion, hard right groups undermines decades of feminism.

Shame on Posie. I agree with Jean, I will also be sitting down for women.

WeRiseUp

There is some serious techie irony going on that places this MN video adjacent to your post.

God yes Ova

And remember that the special trans guidelines weren't always there. They were developed because a load of controlling dickheads descended upon Mumsnet making threats about what women are allowed to say otherwise they would sqweam and squeam until they were sick. MNHQ were bricking it and winging it - trying to hash together new rules.

It seems there is a new wave of people keen to further control what women are allowed to discuss / share on Mumsnet's FWR chat board, mostly from the outside.

Have to agree with 'dubbegoodtome'. This forum is not at all welcoming to new posters, and can appear very cliquey. Since I started posting, just recently ( September) only a handful of people have acknowledged, or even responded to me, and two of those felt. hostile and combative.
Go do six months on 4chan.

Thanks to those of you have who acknowledged me. Appreciated!

Have to say I don't even understand the basics on here - such as how to insert italics, or quote others.

And what is 'AIBU'?

I do appreciate some of the obvious knowledge & expertise on here, but also feel that we all have something to offer, including expertise in our own fields & in different ways.

Forums can become very cliquey - with dominant and persistent personalities, I understand that. Other than lurking and reading for information, then I suppose we have to gauge just how much time and commitment we put in, and how important the particular issue is to us in the scheme of things.

just

Aibu is another board on here

Its like a bearpit...fucking terrifying

Justhadathought
Just bold to quote, don't @ because it's seen as rude here. Bold is an asterisk with no space either side of what you want to bold.
Italics are in the menu underneath, they don't get used much.
AIBU is Am I Being Unreasonable

AIBU is the question 'Am I being unreasonable?'

It is both the most idiomatic and popular forum on Mumsnet. Feminism Chat (FWR) is very tender and delicate by comparison.

AIBU

Makes here look all warm and fluffy. Though it’s always good to poke them with a sharp stick by starting a thread on there

Click the circles under the box you’re typing into for italics etc

I don't know how necessary it is to be welcomed on this board.

I come here for the learning and, as with this thread, by the time I want to say something, someone else has already said it better than I could.

by the time I want to say something, someone else has already said it better than I could
With me it's by the time I post my war and peace post, one of the regulars has said what I wanted to, but in two sentences.
Still, some lurkers might be really pedantic and appreciate me using thirty words when one will do

I’ve been back and forth on these boards with different user names, I’ve personally found it welcoming, I’ve always found support as well when I’ve shared difficult things. Obv others have a diff experience but, we are all adults and busy trying to be active on issues important to us while raising families and working. Women here aren’t obliged to hold your hand or put in emotional labour to help you settle in. We’ve got enough people to look after in real life. Toughen up and respect that some here put in an enormous amount of time keeping us informed, adding links and references.

I personally don't need to be welcomed or acknowledged, I'm here to learn.

It is both the most idiomatic and popular forum on Mumsnet. Feminism Chat (FWR) is very tender and delicate by comparison.

Does this make FWR the lady dick of MN and AIBU the big hairy prong?

I'm sorry, I couldn't help it. Drink has been taken. Cheers!

I have no idea who many of the posters are here. I've been on MN for about 12 years but I name change every year and more frequently than some of my posts were screenshotted by TRAs.

TBH, I don't think FWR is any more cliquey than any other group of people who've known one another for awhile. I always think joining a forum is like becoming a regular at a pub. You stand at the bar, make a bit of small talk with another regular, join in with jokes, join in with conversation and soon you'll be welcomed like an old friend

I think for many women, this forum is the only place where they can discuss GC views because they are unable to IRL for numerous reasons.

I really enjoyed Meghan's interview with Posie incidentally when she was talking about how dittany radicalised her. Dittany had a huge affect on so many women's lives :)

effect

Haddock has gleefully seized on the Jean-Posie schism and is calling on us all to repent now that it's been proven conclusively that GC = more Nazi than Hitler.

Just If you want to test the waters if AIBU try a driving or parking question.
The road rage doesn't get left in the car!
I dare you.

Or suggest your child's teacher is picking on your kid just because the kid is regularly naughty...

Does Harrop really think GC women are suddenly going to believe TWAW and no longer care about single sex provision because two other women have had a disagreement about something? I saw a TRA having a go at that misogynistic prick Aidan Comerford earlier for being a patronising arse- by Harrop's logic that means he now needs to reject transactivism.

Haddock reckons it proves we're aligning ourselves with the extreme right and we either repent entirely and agree with him 100% or we're Nazis ourselves.

^DubBeGoodToMe Parker's campaign is about free speech, opposition to silencing of women's voices and the exclusion of women from development of public policy. If we don't overcome this initially none of us will be able to ever say anything about abortion or any other issue that affects women in the future.

This issue affects all women of all political persuasions and none.^

JackyHolyoake I get that this effects all women and the point you’re making, I was talking about my personal line. The pro-life groups in the US are horrendous when it comes to silencing women’s voices and making make-made decisions on their behalf - I would find it difficult to be part of something that is specifically supported by them so I sympathise with Jean. I also understand Posie’s viewpoint.

And btw, good to see you being acknowledged justhadathought

Luckily I give no shits as to what Haddock thinks.

What has it got to do with him what women do or think?

It’s curious how some deliberately misconstrue what I and others comment and even think - they seem to nitpick on something and won’t let it go -almost as though they want a reaction to the deliberate misconstrued intention and then false assertion. Like a women’s comment police force 👮‍♀️

I can either spend my time rebutting false accusations eg that I think Posie isn’t leadership material or that the marginalised are too unpredictable to be trustworthy and reliable or just move on.