Harry the owl visited by police

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This whole hate speech/incident law is completely out of control. This is sinister.
Check out @HarryTheOwl’s Tweet: twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1088144870991114241?s=09

'They say something is a hate incident if the victim or anyone else think it was motivated by hostility or prejudice based on one of the following things:

• disability
• race
• religion
• transgender identity
• sexual orientation.'

So any objection to a male in female-only areas is actually fine, then, provided you'd equally object to a transwoman or bog-standard man in that situation.

Surely Harry can log that Harrop tweet as a hate incident or threat?

There are more than two thousand comments on the Humberside Police Twitter statement now.

twitter.com/Humberbeat/status/1089899900177956864

Crikey.

Harry, you might well be peak transing the nation

I asked Stephanie for a round of golf and they called me a disgusting unforgiving hypocritical Christian bigot before deleting it.

Wish I had the foresight to screenshat the thing.

It wasn't Hayden who launched the private prosecution against Venice and Linda (which FAILED), it was Giuliana Kendal.

Anyone puzzled by the references to golf clubs - look here.

I hadn’t realised it was a parking dispute! Should have come on here with a diagram instead of assaulting someone.

I hadn’t realised it was a parking dispute! Should have come on here with a diagram instead of assaulting someone.

Yes that stood out to me too. How many crimes of violence has Mumsnet prevented with a demand for a diagram.

So it was Bittermints I’ve got my idiots confused. Is Stephanie the one who identifies as a lawyer and called the police on Graham Linehan?

Definitely an implied threat of violence. But Harry has been talking about trans issues on the internet, so as far as the police are concerned...

Anything from the GMC yet?

Anyone puzzled by the references to golf clubs - look here.

I don't know own why that article states that The judge noted that Halliday had appeared in court and been convicted in respect of several other crimes, which included disorderly behaviour and "a number of offences of dishonesty".

When as far as I know the judge actually stated ^He had appeared before the courts on five previous
occasions for offences which included disorderly behaviour, indecent assault on a male, and
also a number of offences of dishonesty^

Not sure why it misses out the indecent assault?

Ah now I get the references to threats of violence!

Can I also just say - and I think Harry has said the same - the fault here isn’t really with the PC who rang him, it’s the legislation and guidelines that are to blame.

Bluestitch I think @JSoosty might be interested in your screenshot

Oh yes, responsibility rests MUCH higher up than PC Gul.

This is so sad I can’t even...

Didn’t have the fucking resources for someone’s life. Ffs. I am actually pretty mad now.

Thanks BoreofWhabylon one of them is clear doxxing.

Carowiththegoodhair

I asked Stephanie for a round of golf and they called me a disgusting unforgiving hypocritical Christian bigot before deleting it.
That is most definitely a hate incident - protected category religion.

Poor deluded PC Gul will be currently finding out that corporate responsibility always devolves downwards to the the junior staff member.

oxy - did the family take any responsibility and investigate the flat before calling police i wonder?

that happens a lot. people living 2 miles up the road but devolve responsibility to another agency.

fair enough if they lived other side of country but rarely is that the case.

ive just read the statement from humberside police - i cant really see the issue with what they have said to be honest, but i see it from both sides.

professionally i have to investigate some absolute rot and bollocks that wouldnt be worth taking the lid of my pen for.

policing in the uk is fucked quite frankly. no common sense is applied any more and we just spend hours pandering to people who didnt like the hurty words on facebook/twitter. etc

i would much rather spend my time preventing and investigating crime. sadly the police is no longer a "force" but now a "service" run pretty much like any other "customer service" .

Don't you think there is an issue with contacting someone's workplace, telling them boys grow girl brains in the womb and to check their thinking? They have decided to get involved in enforcing an ideology. There was no crime committed.

hate incidents have to be logged - not necessarily a crime but if someone phones 101 complaining the hurty words upset them and they needs the there there cream and the bad man telling off then im afraid police officers are merely fucking puppets and have to record a "hate incident"

i agree with you. its not that i dont. i think its absolute bullshit. i wish we could just say go get a fucking life and contact the police when you need to report a CRIME.

i say this quite often actually. one of these days i will get the sack except i do tend to phrase it rather more diplomatically than that - i do often tell folk however that the police are there to deal with crime and offences and if no offence has occurred then get a life and find someone else to whinge to....

i will get sacked on of these days.

So what happens when a serious crime has been committed and yet no contact is made? Is there a hierarchy of investigation?

I think it's imperative that hate crimes and hate incidents are logged and reported separately in annual figures, otherwise these meaningless 'incidents' are simply going to skew the stats.