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Harry the owl visited by police

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Imnobody4 · 23/01/2019 20:28

This whole hate speech/incident law is completely out of control. This is sinister.
Check out @HarryTheOwl’s Tweet: twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1088144870991114241?s=09

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FlawedAmazon · 25/01/2019 10:47

A reporter from Look North is going to interview Harry.

Let's hope more media organisations start to look at this issue more critically.

andyoldlabour · 25/01/2019 10:51

"KiwiFarms are not 'the usual source of information' for the vast majority of us."

Whilst I think that you post a lot of interesting information and links, really good stuff, I look at alternate sources as well.
There is a lot of stuff which I do not like about KF, but on this subject they seem to have done a lot of forensic work, very detailed.
I also think Transgendertrend and 4th wave are good.

nauticant · 25/01/2019 10:51

KiwiFarms are not 'the usual source of information' for the vast majority of us.

Yep. If I'm trying to find out the background about someone who appears to be behaving abusively and there's no useful information available from other media sources but there is from Kiwifarms then I'll have a look there.

1hello2hello · 25/01/2019 10:55

My uneducated guess would be that while Harry lives outside Humberside his business, which he was traced through, is based in Humberside. The clue is 'hairy....docker'.

GerryblewuptheER · 25/01/2019 10:56

Yep. If I'm trying to find out the background about someone who appears to be behaving abusively and there's no useful information available from other media sources but there is from Kiwifarms then I'll have a look there

Us mere mortals would lose out on a job interview because of a rogue apostrophe on the cv, or because 6 years ago a friend tagged you in a fave book memory photo of a night out in the pub . Our knickers Ha e a super power of getting a rapist off in court.

Yet these people, are allowed into schools and everywhere for that matter to spread their un proven, stereotypical nonsense to supposedly educated people regardless of what they have or haven't done.

It's bizarre.

TimeLady · 25/01/2019 10:56

Kiwi Farms has successfully archived information that has been removed from Mumsnet and elsewhere. I think it has an important role to play in upholding freedom of speech.

R0wantrees · 25/01/2019 11:15

Whilst I think that you post a lot of interesting information and links, really good stuff, I look at alternate sources as well.

Not sure why you think I limit what I look at.
I'm not suggesting that anyone shouldn't look at anything but to say Kiwi Farms are 'our usual source of information' is innacurate.

It's also worth being aware of how 'Mumsnet' is currently being monitored, pressured and smeared as well as individual posters targetted.

see my comment,
"Adults are able to assess articles and discuss the points raised."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3488473-I-see-Daily-Mail-links-posted-here-a-lot-for-a-source

relevent threads;
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3487089-Trans-activist-shares-their-activism-tactics

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3484133-Gamer-raises-100-000-and-rising-for-trans-charity-Mermaids-by-playing-Donkey-Kong-non-stop

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R0wantrees · 25/01/2019 11:23

Worth watching Meghan Murphy:
'Graham Linehan on Twitter, trans activism, and why he won't just shut up'

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=2mP6RZud4ls

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3488693-Meghan-Murphy-and-Graham-Linehan-conversation

Sarahconnor1 · 25/01/2019 11:24

A reporter from Look North is going to interview Harry

Harry is wearing the perfect t-shirt for the occasion mobile.twitter.com/HarryTheOwl/status/1088751435699896320

GerryblewuptheER · 25/01/2019 11:29

Perfect!
He should stay up his dictionarys and biology books on the table.

littlbrowndog · 25/01/2019 11:31

Rowan you are on a list 💪💪
Someone is telling the teacher on you and Sarah 🤦‍♀️

littlbrowndog · 25/01/2019 11:33

Oh and good luck harry. Do it

R0wantrees · 25/01/2019 11:35

Lionel Shriver Spectator: 'Publishers must push back against the baying Twitter mob'
(extract)
Suppose you’re a writer with a self-destructive proclivity for sticking your neck out. Would you sign a book contract that would be cancelled in the instance of ‘sustained, widespread public condemnation of the author’? Even cautious, congenial writers are working in an era when a bland, self-evident physiological assertion like ‘women don’t have penises’ attracts a school of frenzied piranhas. So journalists would be fools to sign a document voided if, in a magazine’s ‘sole judgment’, they were the subject of ‘public disrepute, contempt, complaints or scandals’.

These are the ‘morality clauses’ arising in standard publishing contracts in the wake of #MeToo. Primarily a Hollywood weapon of the 1930s and 1940s, morality clauses were used particularly to frighten actresses from disgraceful hanky-panky. So savour the irony: this legal loophole was designed to oppress women, especially in regard to sex. In consequence of a movement meant to thwart the oppression of women, especially in regard to sex, the clauses are sneaking back.

What makes these stipulations so alarming is their vagueness. Who exactly is ‘the public’? Who, or what, speaks for ‘the public’?

I think we know. ‘The public’ is Twitter.

Enshrining mob rule in legal contracts can only further embolden the cranks, the kooks, the grumps — the sanctimonious, the embittered, the aggrieved. As word spreads that outrage on digital steroids can not only hound and intimidate writers, but can consign years of their hard work to the bin, the Twits are further motivated to crucify anyone who breaks their imaginary rules. (continues)

Hollywood’s morality clauses were deployed to blacklist American writers, directors and actors to mollify Joe McCarthy. In kind, today’s broad, nonspecific publishing opt-outs in the event of an author’s incurring ‘disrepute’ readily extend to thought crime — and the contemporary basket of ideological no-nos does nothing but burgeon. (continues)

concludes:
It’s time for folks with institutional power to exercise independent judgment, rather than immediately disavowing overnight pariahs who only yesterday were their friends and colleagues. To refuse to respond to every mob at the door by picking up a baseball bat and joining the throng. You know who you are."
www.spectator.co.uk/2019/01/publishers-must-push-back-against-the-baying-twitter-mob/

current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3489265-Publishers-must-push-back-against-the-baying-Twitter-mob-Lionel-Shriver-article-in-Spectator

TimeLady · 25/01/2019 11:38

I wonder if Look North is brave enough to go with this story; it is the BBC after all.

It's my region so I'll be tuning in with renewed interest Grin, and Harry, so good that you have that T-shirt!!! Or is that going to be regarded as offensive as its counterpart?

NotBadConsidering · 25/01/2019 11:44

Is that t shirt transphobic? It could be added to the list but, you know...Hmm

Popchyk · 25/01/2019 11:45

Surely Harry can now identify as Sally and report PC Gul for a transphobic hate incident?

Any hate incident absolutely must be investigated apparently.

BoreOfWhabylon · 25/01/2019 11:45

@HezzaTheOwl

Suits you, sir!

I hope the interview will be recorded so that those of us not in the North can see it.

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R0wantrees · 25/01/2019 11:57

littlbrowndog
YY
If the link to the thread had been shared, people might have a more balanced understanding.
(as you know I think referencing to source is important)

Its a shame (and a bloody irony) they misquoted that particular post as Sir Chris Hoy's video about the benefits of the 'Chimp Paradox' model is very relevent those who do not recognise the damage their emotional reactions have on themselves as well as others! It could have been helpful. Smile

I wrote:
"It is quite something to see the numbers of male people posting whatthey seem to think is a 'gotcha' to Graham Linehan with gifs of gorillas jumping about.

Kiwi Farms talk about 'chimping out'

see Steve Peters, 'The Chimp Paradox' which has been used effectively by many sports teams.
Twitter demonstrates how many people (especially males) who need to learn to manage their chimp and be more human:"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0TkV34ynzE

it really is worth watching!

R0wantrees · 25/01/2019 12:08

Humberside Police twitter response.

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GerryblewuptheER · 25/01/2019 12:11

They have dug themselves a right hole now haven't they. No choice but to follow through.

Have their been any cases of men taken to court for yelling nice tits out their van windows?

Dd2 is 12 if I reported the old dude who looked her up and down then smirked at me would police visit me?

GerryblewuptheER · 25/01/2019 12:12

Dd1 sorry.

Dd2 just gets restaurant staff stroking her arms and calling her their girlfriend Hmm she's 8

Sarahconnor1 · 25/01/2019 12:12

littlbrowndog

Just seens the naughty list Hmm

My mention of kiwi farms was about Hbomberguy. Not sure how that's doxing, everybody already knew his name or have the BBC doxed him as well www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-46961883

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/01/2019 12:15

It’s not a response to why it was Himside that got involved though

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 25/01/2019 12:16

Ffs, humberside!

Sarahconnor1 · 25/01/2019 12:22

Back to Harry, who is having a busy day, talk radio next with Matthew wright.

Harry you deserve a beer or 2 tonight.

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