Got stared at in the restroom

[GrinitchSpinach]

Another day, another male who feels entitled to use women's spaces. Responses all support the male's "right" to be there, discount the woman's obvious discomfort with the male's presence.

oh lollll at ‘she didn’t do anything but she could have’

well, yes, quite - I imagine she was thinking much the same about you, mate

So in essence you just stare hard at the natal woman or girl and make her feel really uncomfortable, oooookaaayyyy.

This is all about a guy's rights again, sigh. Claiming to be female or feel female but not a shred of empathy for females and their needs and rights. Tosser!

DARVO

WTF do they think the mother was thinking?

The mother was probably wondering why a third space hasn’t been carved out of the men’s loos.
Staring at her in return means she will go elsewhere next time and the business will lose custom.
This illustrates why third spaces are the only way forward now that Pandora’s box has been well and truly opened.

I have read that a couple of times and I cannot see any mention of a male, just "her" and "mom". A little more information would be good.

Woman with child gives hard Paddington stare to a man in the women's toilets. Woman does nothing else. Woman says nothing. Pass the smelling salts. Take to Twitter. Oh the horrors of what the poor person endured.

Sorry Andy, this is from a transgender subreddit; it is a male original poster complaining about being stared at by a mother in the ladies' room. Second image is a response from another male person who uses the ladies' room encouraging the original poster to be more aggressive next time a woman looks askance in the ladies' room. Does that make sense? I don't know if I've explained it properly. It is hard to have certain very common clarifying words verboten here.

I have read that a couple of times and I cannot see any mention of a male

The author of the post is male. This is completely obvious from the context. Why would a woman have only been using the women's toilets for a few months? Why would a woman be paranoid that other women were thinking she shouldn't be in the women's toilets? Why would someone reply calling the unnerved mother cis?

I can see why OP didn't think this needed to be spelled out.

Frankly, I say Paddington hard stares are totally the way forward. Everyone knows the 'Mum look'. It conveys so much with no words at all.

What it also does is illustrate the huge immaturity of someone basically saying "She's looking at me!!!"

Yes, mate. A woman with a child is going to be aware of who is in the enclosed space with her. You totally self obsessed prat.

At no point do these geniuses realise a mother's right and obligation to police her child's space.

Chumps.

That's why he couldn't eat his dinner. He got a mum look. He knows he's on a screen ban until Easter if he doesn't redeem himself sharpish.

Zero empathy. Agree Lang

You can bet your life if I'm in a small enclosed space with my child and I spot a man who shouldn't be in there I'm gonna watch him. I'm not taking my eyes off him!

EJennings, but...But when Posie laughed on This Morning, the papers called her 'disrespectful'. It would be so awful if certain people thought we were being disrespectful. Or if we looked at them.

Really, we should probably not go out, or maybe look at the floor all the time if we absolutely have to go out.

To put this in context, this may explain her concerns, considering it only happened 3 days ago:
www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/two-women-sexually-assaulted-trans-woman-north-carolina-bathroom-police-n956671

Naturally NAWALT applies, the vast majority of genetic women aren't a threat to trans women.

Ah yes, looking while female. She probably had thoughts and opinions too.

How very dare she.

Gronky pretty feeble try there, the article you posted puts nothing into context as this was a woman with her child. The two scenarios are in no way comparable.
Genetic woman, wtf yet another pile of horseshit to describe the term woman. Woman is enough, no need to add extra descriptions.

The two scenarios are in no way comparable.

I completely acknowledge that they're not comparable from a rational standpoint but, in the context of an acute fear it's quite understandable (at least to me) that the person being stared at might have been concerned that it was a prelude to physical violence.

Woman is enough, no need to add extra descriptions.

I understand that the use of the term can be grating but it seemed more ambiguous when phrased as 'women aren't a threat to trans women'.

Gosh, yes, because who could you possibly have meant by 'women' in a sentence like that?

And yes, I can understand why a person may feel intimidated by a Paddington hard mum stare. That is precisely why they are used and I applaud the mum for it.

Gronky read back what you wrote, you’re taking the piss. You know it, I know it. End of goady interjection.

Yes indeed, FB - I applaud the mum too. Well done that mum.

Mum was taking her daughter to the women's toilets. Encountered a man in there, in the women's toilets. Mum instantly spotted a huge red flag when she saw it. Mum went into alert mode because there was a man in the women's toilets.

Yes, well done, that mum

That is precisely why they are used and I applaud the mum for it.

Just to be clear, I have no problem with it in and of itself but I think within the context of current events, it's a little unreasonable to use the threat of implied sexual violence against anyone (even someone you disagree with). To carry on being clear, I don't believe the mother in this event was knowingly doing so but, with this knowledge in mind, it doesn't seem terribly pleasant to continue supporting her actions.

ChewyLouie people are quite capable of doing the wrong things for the (apparent) right reasons.

They didn't even look at the mum long enough to be able to say what her expression was. They just assumed that the mum was staring & ran away. I don't even look at other people in the toilet - it's entirely possible that the mum was just absent-mindedly staring into space while waiting for the child to finish! The self-obsessed paranoia is palpable...

I have had enough of this bullshit. These poor, hard done by, entitled men.

What makes it worse for me, quite honestly, is how so many other women I have discussed these issues with either have no idea what is going on, or no desire to get upset by it. I am made to feel like an unreasonable bigot.