Got stared at in the restroom

[GrinitchSpinach]

Another day, another male who feels entitled to use women's spaces. Responses all support the male's "right" to be there, discount the woman's obvious discomfort with the male's presence.

I thought 'front bottom' came from one of Arabella Weir's Fast Show characters. I have lived in the UK for 15 years and that is the only place I have heard it.

Well, this is bizarre turn in the conversation, I must say.

Our family called it Minnie when I was very little. My girls are fond of saying "Vulva and VAGINA!" loudly in inappropriate places, so I doubt there's much coyness in their future - though I'm sure they will dial it down to faux-dainty MN terms of humour eventually.

What was the point of the derail again?

So the woman has kept quiet, while the protagonist learns to push boundaries further, with support from online chums.
Nice.

That some it up.

This story reminds me of Eddie Izzard's tale of how a bunch of teenage girls chased him out of women's loos

There's lots to dissect about Eddie's tale, but its definitely a sign of the times that someone who is keen for a career in politics talked so freely about being in a public toilets with teenage girls.

As a Mum, if I was in a public toilet with my daughter and someone, anyone, pinged my 'mum radar' I would also do the hard stare. I would choose offending a stranger over compromising my child's safety every single time. What the original writer of this simply won't understand is how often Mums will prickle to a perceived risk to their child.

I don't think I'll knowing leave any child alone in a public toilet or changing room with someone who pinged my radar.

If that makes male transpeople unhappy, so be it.

'Act like you belong there ...'. The only reason to 'act' is if you know full well that you don't 'belong' there.

'... like you own the place'. This is nothing short of colonisation of women's spaces by men using tactics of intimidation. With a little bit (a lot) of playing the victim thrown in.

Also note how the statistic of trans women suffering sexual assault conveniently doesn't mention whether that sexual assault was committed by women or by men.

Are we really expected to believe that the majority of transwomen live in 'acute fear' of sexual assault by women? And that they are using the ladies loos to bravely face that fear? Are they concerned that even if they are 'raped' (legally impossible without a penis) their clothing (including underwear) will be discussed in court and that they will be counter accused of somehow inviting sexual assault?

‘Paddington stare’ illustration for confused lurkers:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=q_XjlVrrU_A

And yes, damn straight a man in a woman’s facility will get a Paddington stare from a mother with a child.

It’s definitely not literal violence though.

Although I’m starting to wonder if a ‘OH! I AM sorry! I thought I had brought my DAUGHTER into the WOMEN’S toilet! My MISTAKE!’ is the way forward