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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sandi Toksvig at the Lowry

30 replies

CleanArea · 09/01/2019 22:01

Sandi says that it's not true that there is a difference between men's and women's brains. Gender differences are the product of socialization.

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SonicVersusGynaephobia · 09/01/2019 22:07

Oh dear, the Women's Equality Party penis-people will be after her. How very dare she.

Sarahjconnor · 09/01/2019 22:10

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Barracker · 09/01/2019 22:16

Good Lord.
Next she'll be telling us lesbianism is something to do with sex, not gender.
Whatever is she thinking?

Notevenmyrealname · 09/01/2019 22:19

It’s astonishing that this point of view is now a reason for some people to call you a bigot.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 09/01/2019 22:19

Men's brains are a bit bigger on the whole. Like their feet

Katvonbatshitmermaid · 09/01/2019 22:49

Move immediately to the gulag
Do not pass go
Do not collect £200

Katvonbatshitmermaid · 09/01/2019 22:50

That's directed at everyone and especially sandi

WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE MINDS TRAPPED IN THE "WRONG BODIES"

littlbrowndog · 09/01/2019 23:04

Sad mind in wrong body 😧
Who has my body the fucker 🤣🤣

feministfairy · 09/01/2019 23:07

A thread is not complete until littlbrowndog has added her comment - and made me laugh Grin

littlbrowndog · 09/01/2019 23:29

Yeah lols sometimes this stuff makes me laugh with the just the pure bonkerness
It’s just so like. Well bonkers and just have to say it

Haworthia · 09/01/2019 23:37

Sooo, what are the chances of a Twitter shitstorm so huge, people will be threatening to boycott/get her sacked from Bake Off, followed by a meek apology by the weekend?

theOtherPamAyres · 10/01/2019 08:52

I thought that Sandi T's vocal support of her transwomen 'siblings' was the main reason why WEP sits on the fence.

hipsterfun · 10/01/2019 09:35

Maybe Sandi is the WEPs parapet test head (after the unfortunate HBE business)...

Iverunoutofideas · 10/01/2019 09:38

Lol fairy and dog!

KittiesInsane · 10/01/2019 09:45

Well, there are differences in typical/average size, in typical/average activity patterns and in the chromosomes within every cell. Does she mean different abilities?

(Looking at papers on brain research, whether physical or psychological, makes me Want to go and read something easier, like quantum mechanics.)

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 10/01/2019 09:48

I thought there were differences, since DNA exists in all cells, including the brain cells. So if you have XY chromosomes you are male and therefore that is what your brain is, irrespective of how you feel about it.
I can't in all honesty say how differences between male and female chromosomes manifest in terms of how the brain works - I can't say I've noticed much of a difference between men and women that can't be traced to how we are socialised/ individual character differences.

Aquilla · 10/01/2019 09:57

Love Sandi but she's wrong about this! (As anyone with a whiff of scientific knowledge well knows. )

pancaketosser · 10/01/2019 09:59

IANA scientist, but my understanding is that whilst men's brains may be bigger (as an example, I don't actually know), you couldn't take a brain and say it belonged to a female or a male.

Similar to how men tend to be taller than women, but if I gave you the height of a random person you wouldn't be able to say for certain whether the person was female or male based on that height.

pancaketosser · 10/01/2019 10:00

Either way, this shows how important it is for language to be precise and have actual meaning.

arranbubonicplague · 10/01/2019 11:43

1 Waiting for a written report that can be verified.

2 Waiting for a walking back by Sandi T.

3 Waiting for denunciation of Sandi T by same people who evicted HBE without due process.

Thingybob · 10/01/2019 12:00

you couldn't take a brain and say it belonged to a female or a male

No but you would be right over 80% of the time so there is a statistically significant difference.

RiverTam · 10/01/2019 12:02

didn't Sandi support Tara Hudson being moved to a women's prison? As I think there's a direct line from that action to Karen White, I'm not sure I can really forgive her.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 10/01/2019 12:05

Sandi's also repeatedly stated on TV that lesbians do not do penis.

MIdgebabe · 10/01/2019 20:49

Brain capability might have been what she meant

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 10/01/2019 21:03

No but you would be right over 80% of the time so there is a statistically significant difference

If you were given casts of male and female feet you could probably categorise them by sex with a reasonably high degree of accuracy. This doesn't imply that there are sex-related differences in the way those feet work or in their general anatomy.

Brains differ markedly by sex at a chromosomal and hormonal level. This seems to translate into surprisingly few reliably observable differences (given current technology) at an anatomical or functional level.