Mermaids review

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Good news for people who don't believe gender non-conforming children should be told they're in the 'wrong' body, and may need a lifetime of drugs and/or surgery to 'fix' that.

twitter.com/lecanardnoir/status/1074664349854298113

A dimmer switch isn't even the light spectrum, it's the brightness.

Yes I know, they are a bit hard of physics as well as biology.

This dimmer switch thing - does 'Jan' actually think that analogies prove that something is true?

analogies prove that something is true

Now that is interesting. It is one (or more) step further into the beyond from correlation =/= cause.

I attempted to listen to it yesterday, I'm a bit under the weather (Summer Flu is the worst) after doing what needed to be done, I lay down with earphones in. The dimmer switch analogy made zero sense, then the jelly baby rubbish, I can recall the first time the "trainer" rebuked Michael? for questioning....then nothing. I crashed out, clearly didn't get very far so HUGE THANKS to the transcribers.

Fortunately I'm not a good candidate for hypnosis and such, apparently subliminal suggestion is supposed to be a thing.

Orchid

Will do. Yes headings are a good idea because this was less like training... more of a monalogue. A page full of 'burble', 'burble' would likely not be any less coherent than Jan

I have added in some slightly piss-taking paragraph titles

FFS I am crap at doing the strike through on here

I don't understand the dimmer switch analogy. So the fact that it's possible to hook a light up to a variable voltage device and make it brighter or dimmer is linked to humans not being a sexually dimorphic species?

So the fact that it's possible to hook a light up to a variable voltage device and make it brighter or dimmer is linked to humans not being a sexually dimorphic species?

Yes, it's not even an analogy, is it?

It's simply bollocks. She might as well have said 'You get lots of different colours of Smarties, so..."

The reference to CAMHS not being helpful is important I think. Many children will have associated mental health conditions as has been mentioned by the importance of looking at co-morbidities (different diseases or pathologies that exist within one person and that may influence the presentation and treatment of each other) and ,taking a holistic view of the child is paramount. CAMHS services nationally though are in a dire state. Where I work there are long delays to be seen and then treated. I am frequently finding referrals I have made that would have previously been picked up by CAMHS are bounced back as not being serious enough for their input. It’s not that they don’t want to but unless you’ve got a child who is actively suicidal and self harming or is presenting with psychosis they are just too stretched to get involved. Which allows the perfect opportunity for distressed parents to turn to third sector organisations such as Mermaids. In fact, a recent letter I did recieve from CAMHS listed them as a source of support for parents, which I’m furious and upset about but have no idea how to draw attention to this without risking my job.

This one to tug at your heartstrings....you mean lot

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Why £500,000 for coffee groups, I don’t know. NCT manage it for far less.

Which allows the perfect opportunity for distressed parents to turn to third sector organisations such as Mermaids. In fact, a recent letter I did receive from CAMHS listed them as a source of support for parents

Mermaids are speaking at a CAMHS national networking conference.

www.iapt-nnf.co.uk/Home/ViewEvent/96

One of the twitter threads I saw linked to Michael Biggs' research concluding that suicide in trans/gender questioning children is incredibly rare, something like four teenagers in the last four years?

So I'm assuming that Susie Green is referring to young adults who might have been involved with Mermaids in the past when she refers to two recent suicides. Not that age makes deaths any less traumatic and awful, but implying they were kids seems off in light of the Samaritans guidance.

seems off in light of the Samaritans guidance.

The whole situation around kids is off.

Agree entirely, this was just something that caught my eye today.

Is there anyone with any influence who thinks transwomen are women who opposes Mermaids? One issue is that if all the opposition is gender critical, then it will be dismissed as transphobic.

Is there anyone with any influence who thinks transwomen are women who opposes Mermaids?

There are Transwomen who post here, Debbie Hayton included and at least one parent of a transperson who has expressed concern with their practice in regards to children.

Just adding my thanks to those stalwart transcribers. You must feel as though your brains have turned to mush after listening to that claptrap. How much to Mermaids get paid for 'delivering training' such as this, I wonder.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost

Thank you, however, she is a transwoman, but she doesn't think transwomen are women.

debbiehayton.wordpress.com/2018/10/20/not-all-transsexuals-think-trans-women-are-women/

Confusingly, she also says "as a transsexual woman," so it's not entirely clear.

Confusingly, she also says "as a transsexual woman," so it's not entirely clear

Transexual woman = transwoman. It's just quicker than stating i identify with the stereotypes of the female gender.

I think they influx of transexual who think they can change sex and are adamant TWAW is caused by mermaids teaching, so i'm not sure you will find any who see it as wrong.

Isn't it more the other way around? The adults who for various reasons we're not really allowed to discuss here have adopted the TWAW and also literally biologically female because sex is a spectrum and so on have influenced organizations like Mermaids, who are now in turn brainwashing children.

Maybe, something has certainly changed over the last 6 years.

The escalation really has been remarkable, as has the we've always been at war with Eastasia public response.