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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Men would never do this....

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IHATEPeppaPig · 17/12/2018 07:53

Adrian Comerford on twitter stating the following:

A man abusing gender self-id laws, to change gender for the rest of his life, just to prey on women in public toilets is the stupidest criminal plan of all time.

Who could look at this world & think that men would have to go to such extremes to abuse women?

Only a transphobe.

Only a man would say this, it is baffling when you think about abused women and the lengths men go to to hurt them, that this isn't even a consideration for him or anyone?This isn't even about being trans or arguing the gender critical side, it is the complete lack of critical thought and entitled male privilege.

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bigKiteFlying · 17/12/2018 07:56

South Korean women protest in Seoul over hidden sex cameras

Male privilege - and missing so many new stories like one above.

ravencaw · 17/12/2018 07:58

Men train to become priests, teachers and police men to abuse children why wouldn’t they pop on a frock? It’s absurd to suggest that they aren’t already doing it.

IHATEPeppaPig · 17/12/2018 08:02

Exactly raven, it just isn't even a possibility to them that some men would do this. However, i know of someone who was imprisoned for installing cameras in toilets - why make it easier for this to happen?

To be honest, the toilet issue isn't one that I'm most concerned with (I completely understand why others are though and will support them) but he is dripping in male privilege and it pissed me off.

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OrchidInTheSun · 17/12/2018 08:03

Karen White. Martin Ponting. Nicola Huntley

peanut2017 · 17/12/2018 08:03

Only came across this dude yesterday on Glinners thread. He's supposedly an Irish comedian - I'm Irish and live here and have never heard of him.

Stupid shite he is sprouting - the gospel according to him. How the fuck does he know what anyone's motivations are?

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 17/12/2018 08:07

No one would even have to abuse the law as you would not be able to ask people what gender they are. They wouldn't even have to dress up. Just go into the changing rooms and if anyone says anything, act all outraged and threaten to sue.

IHATEPeppaPig · 17/12/2018 08:09

Yep Orchid, the fact that there has been high profile cases which literally highlight exactly the lengths men will go to makes it even more incredulous!!!

It has really riled me this morning.

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Juells · 17/12/2018 08:10

I'm Irish and live here and have never heard of him.

Me neither. He just doesn't sound very bright. I see that Maeve Higgins (saw her once on TV and didn't find her funny) has also drunk the KoolAid and started spouting off on twitter about horrible transphobes.

IHATEPeppaPig · 17/12/2018 08:11

Absolutely, this is my point - why make it easier for this to happen, what was so wrong with how we have been getting on before? Women have been fine with trans women up to now so why the need to do all this?

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KindOfAGeek · 17/12/2018 08:15

I googled - exhibitism "women's room".

Don't.

The first three hits are porn sites. In fact out of the first 10, 7 are to porn sites, most involving toilets (one is to a locker room).

No, men would never do this because men never have fantasies like that.....

QuentinWinters · 17/12/2018 08:24

Post this in reply. This happened a few days after target in the US made their changing facilities unisex. They also saw profits fall. Who knows if those things are linked?

www.eastidahonews.com/2016/10/transgender-woman-pleads-guilty-target-dressing-room-voyeurism/

heresyandwitchcraft · 17/12/2018 08:31

Why do these dickheads not get it? You don’t even need to wear a dress anymore, there is no “meaningful change”, nothing but a piece of paper that then means you get to demand access to women’s services! What about that waxing case in Canada?
ARGH!
This dismissal of women’s concerns enraged me. Because women KNOW male violence, sexual exploitation and manipulation. If you’ve lived life as a man, you have no clue. None. You cannot know the value of a male-free space or the endless safeguarding checklists women go through all the time.

NotBadConsidering · 17/12/2018 08:42

Men are so stupidly determined to access women’s bathrooms they’re willing to risk their lives by crawling into a vent:

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/02/calgary-canada-body-behind-toilet-accidental-death

I just googled “women’s toilets filming” and got multiple separate stories of voyeurism in the news in Australia, more links than I can post. Men go to ridiculous lengths to catch a glimpse. But apparently it’s ridiculous to think one of these types of men won’t use self-id as their way in.

charis · 17/12/2018 08:45

Yes. Situational awareness. And even that's a minefield. "He only put his hand on your knee, you hysterical woman. Wait, he did what? Why didn't you run away when he touched your leg?!"

NAMALT but ultimately we can't tell just by looking at them. Which is why we need single sex spaces!

Badstyley · 17/12/2018 09:04

He’s right of course, men will go to whatever lengths are necessary to abuse women and children. I’m not sure in that case why he thinks they’d refuse a free, all access pass.

Also surely the likes of Karen White are far more transphobic than any of us women for pointing out the obvious.

I’ve been on the internet for 10 minutes, it’s not even 9am on a Monday morning and I’ve had my week’s worth of head Fuckery already. I think I’m gonna self identify as an ostrich for a bit.

Badstyley · 17/12/2018 09:05

Actually it’s 9:04. Oh well then...

LangCleg · 17/12/2018 09:19

I’ve been on the internet for 10 minutes, it’s not even 9am on a Monday morning and I’ve had my week’s worth of head Fuckery already. I think I’m gonna self identify as an ostrich for a bit.

I know this feeling well.

Datun · 17/12/2018 09:33

Men train to become priests, teachers and police men to abuse children why wouldn’t they pop on a frock? It’s absurd to suggest that they aren’t already doing it.

Don't need a frock. Don't even need to identify as a woman. The very existence of law that says they can, is enough.

They don't need to even invoke that law.

This man is managing to upset and intimidate women by leveraging transgenderism without even being trans.

As Greer said, women have no idea how much men hate them. I used to think she was harsh. Now I think she underestimates the matter.

HestiaParthenos · 17/12/2018 10:04

I just read another children's book wherein the villain dresses up as woman to disguise his identity. It is a thing that villains in books for children do relatively often (and, of course, hilariously badly, the illustrations show him in a dress but with a moustache)

Really, deep down, everyone knows what lengths criminals would go to.

Not that putting on a dress is even necessary with self-ID.

AngryAttackKittens · 17/12/2018 10:17

Twitter needs some sort of bot that responds to stupid men's "would never happen" statements with examples of the cases where it already has.

Danaquestionseverything · 17/12/2018 10:23

“Is the stupidest criminal plan of all time”

Gee, I dunno Adrian. Criminals as a general rule are not particularly clever. That’s why we have TV shows about Worlds Dumbest Criminals, Darwin Awards, and endless internet memes.

AngryAttackKittens · 17/12/2018 10:25

My favorite was the bank robbers somewhere in America who parked their getaway car outside of the police station. Criminals are super clever, you guys.

RetiredNotExpired · 17/12/2018 13:29

I’ve been on the internet for 10 minutes, it’s not even 9am on a Monday morning and I’ve had my week’s worth of head Fuckery already. I think I’m gonna self identify as an ostrich for a bit.

I don't know how the feminist stalwarts on twitter (I don't use any other SM) keep going. It takes me a max of 30 mins a day before I start typing replies that mostly consist of variations on 'fuck off'. I've got quite good at deleting them before I hit send :(

Back on topic: that Comerford bloke is an odd one. I took a stroll through his timeline last night and he is relentless. It's exhausting reading it. Afraid I ended up blocking & muting: my time is not infinite and my patience sure as hell isn't ;)

HomeStar · 17/12/2018 13:43

Are we allowed to mention "JY", the pedophilic tampon fetishist who was so shamefully discriminated against in Canada, when female beauty therapists who worked from home with children wouldn't allow her into their home to wax her balls?

JY has had many earnest discussions with young women online about the complex etiquette of putting tampons in little girls, and has posted selfies of herself in the women's bathroom with little girls in the background of the picture.

But I guess if JY can continue to get all mentions of herself scrubbed from the Internet, Adrian Comerford can continue to delude himself that this never happens.

HomeStar · 17/12/2018 14:14

I hate it when people are wrong in so many ways at once.

-yes men would go to extreme lengths
-no extreme lengths are needed anyway. Not even a costume is needed.
-it's already happening so how can you say it would never happen?

  • and why do you think a liar would be deterred by lifelong super-swearsies?
-why do you think criminals never do stupid things? -and the complete fucking misunderstanding of how predatory behaviour works. It's not just jumping out of the bushes or out of the toilet stall or whatever! I fucking hate that none of these woke fuckers ever seem to understand that. They seem to think it's that if a guy's going to attack, he's going to attack, and no law or boundary will stop him. But actually the erosion of social and personal boundaries is what enables predators. This is the most important way he's wrong but it's also the most complicated to contradict. Confused
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