Scottish sex offender prison official - Sunday Times story

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According to Andrew Gilligan, a senior Scottish prison official convicted of possessing 22,000 indecent images of children and now on the sex offenders' register was one of those responsible for introducing its “gender identity and gender reassignment policy” which places men in women's prisons according to their self identification.
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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sex-offender-gordon-pike-helped-set-prison-trans-rules-q8n3lnksv?shareToken=b8704c9c7a62d239c58da9201314d697

Back when I first opened my eyes to what was going on, about five or so years ago, I pointed out to a friend that if we weren't extremely clear on maintaining the category of "woman" to mean exactly what it has always meant in relationship to official stats, such as offending and prison stats, then we would soon expect to see a sudden, apparently inexplicable spike in women offending, particularly around violent and sexual offences. He scoffed himself silly and said that could never, could never happen.

Oh, look.

*could never, would never

What a surprise.

Another dodgy fucker who managed to
Influence policies to dismantle safe Guarding completeky turns out to be a paedo/pervert.

And we were told this never happens....

"I see you. And I will never forget"
Yes absolutely.

I want to know which MP's think this ideology is ok.
I will not be voting for anybody who publicly displays that level of ignorance.

Kathleen Stock's analysis of the quality of evidence and experts that influenced the Maria Miller committee couldn't be more relevant.

Given what we know about the likely make-up of the relevant Stonewall policy panels and in the light of this news, there must be a moratorium on all policies drawn up when based on such advisors and their evidence.

It's unconscionable and it's wrong.

Maybe we need to ask why it is that so few women seem to experience "gender dysphoria"

It's at the other end of the age spectrum but ROGD is GD - and if it is intervention is permitted that makes it difficult to retransmission, there will be a generational cohort about to move through the system. I know there have been discussions about this but won't these trans men have a lower than average for men pattern of criminality or one that is equivalent?

Has this gone into it’ll never happen yet?

I see you. And I will never forget
Now, there’s a slogan for a tee shirt that I’d love. A subtle warning to those in power, who are turning a blind eye to the threat to women and children, in their rush to defend men’s demands to women’s spaces. What about it Posie? Do you fancy doing another poster? 😉

Sorry to go off topic, but what a wonderful word, pusillanimous is. 😁

Yes - it's in It Will Never Happen Resource Thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3348290-It-will-never-happen-resource-thread

Why is the tax payer footing a £60000 bill for the trans person mentioned in that article to have gender reassignment in a private hospital? The bill included escorts and travel from prison in Scotland to Sussex. Surely there are other priorities with regards to funding. That’s the equivalent to my tax for 6 years.

Remember when David Davies asked to raise an urgent question at PMQ about male people being put in womens prisons and John Bercow said no..... I emailed my MP about a month ago asking her to raise an urgent question about the prison situation-no response.

Our MPs are failing women prisoners-we can all see it-yet have no power to change things.

I see you too.

I would contribute to a new Posie campaign!

Women see you. We will never forget.

I see you too whispers thats a mirror

Sometimes DD2 says I go on about this stuff too much.

And most of the time I don't think I go on about it half as much as I should.

We see you
We will not forget

Yet again - in general, I think it would be so helpful to have an @MNHQ web chat about criminal justice reform.

There was a fabulous group of people recently who were involved in a Shadow Report on VAWG and also prisons - they attended an event in the House of Lords.

“FiLiA are delighted to be involved in bringing this group together to gather information & evidence to inform the shadow report.” Sally Jackson Blackbox666 at House of Lords to work on shadow report on UK obligations re #VAWG with GoonerProf CathElliott RichardJGarside

twitter.com/FiLiA_charity/status/1065606008104456193

If there could be input from Frances Crook and others I feel we could learn a lot about what a root and branch reform of the system would look like and what it would cost. It feels like we would have the opportunity to learn so much and it would inform the debate.

Agree.

I see you. And I will never forget.

And that also goes for organisations such as Girl Guides, YHA, British Gymnastics, NSPCC, etc.

It's good to see the comments on the Times piece. It gives me hope that sanity will prevail.

The huge question coming out of this, for me, anyway, is: was Pike acting alone? Or is he part of a co-ordinated attempt by male sexual abusers to provide each other with access to victims?

I see you, and I will never forget.

And pusillanimous, had to consult my dictionary. Lol, dictionaries are such useful things.

Or is he part of a co-ordinated attempt by male sexual abusers to provide each other with access to victims?

It feels awfully like some previously-deprecated organisations managed to go underground and re-group and come out with a very different PR strategy than the one that had them splashed in Sunday newspapers last time around (albeit they were successful infiltrating the Home Office to act as a vault for their more egregious organisation membership lists and document as well as being a channel for public funding).

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3425303-Stonewall-Guidance-police-girlguides-schools-charities

There are now 3 links to the petition in the comments.

Thanks, Arran - I think you're right, and they're using the cloak of respectability of an organisation like Stonewall to pursue a criminal agenda. Why Ruth Hunt is allowing this to happen is anyone's guess.

Almost like a ring of sex offenders

Careful now, people have been exited from this forum for mentioning this.

Really good and clear summary of the issue by Andrew.

We always said that a small number of transwomen committing male-pattern behaviour would have a significant impact on the statistics of female crime. And lo.

the number of women in prison for sex offences has risen by 40% in three years

So - will a presiding government be launching a commission or inquiry into why there's been such an unprecedented increase? Maybe presided over by Helena Kennedy?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3395192-Review-of-Helena-Kennedys-Eve-Was-Shamed

Or - will the lack of any such drive for an investigation have to be accepted as tacit acknowledgement that we know the statistics are now meaningless?

We have government-sanctioned attacks on women expressed through austerity policies and Universal Credit that disproportionately affect women and children. And there's the intersection of austerity and the Children's Act that has women terrified that Social Services will remove children from a household with domestic violence tho' there are insufficient resources to allow women to flee such circumstances.

But, in the bowels of Christ (to appropriate a phrase), is this amongst the most rebarbative, egregious assaults on women that we've ever seen? To affect to believe that we're living through a social phenomenon in which women are suddenly committing sexual offences?