Bunbury’s Public Service Announcement 2

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The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3321127-public-service-announcement

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links in following posts.

I have got sucked into the gender neutral toilet thread, can somebody give me a talking to.

I have got sucked into the gender neutral toilet thread, can somebody give me a talking to

I might spontaneously combust from sheer frustration.

Inimical people arrive with a particular purpose. Why is anybody jumping to attention to immediately give them what they want?

ARGH.

I agree Lang.

There are definitely a few bored pot stirrers with an agenda and time on their hands pitching up for evening.

Which threads are these?

Particularly impressive parade of ignorance and victim blaming on the "cross dressing husband thread" this morning.

I don't understand why this seems to still be the one circumstance where women are judged for leaving on MN. It's very depressing.

Saw you on that thread talking your usual good sense, TinselAngel. I can't believe the idiots who don't understand how repellent a cross dressing DH is to most women. We want men who are at ease in their own skin, not fetishists who glorify a very insulting version of womanhood.

I found my DH extremely attractive throughout our marriage, even when terminal cancer turned him into a walking skeleton. But the thought of him en femme? It's a total turn off.

Thanks Prawn

I wish people wouldn't comment on things they know fuck all about, but if that were the case I suppose MN would grind to a halt completely.

Men are never expected to adjust their sexual preferences but for some reason women should.

It's the message that nothing must get in the way of a man and his sexual gratification that is shocking (although not surprising). Any woman in the vicinity is obliged to facilitate it. To not do so is tantamount to abuse.

Sometimes the memory of our divine Germaine is a palate cleanser in a world of goady fuckers. It’s not, perhaps, remembered so much now, when her works of feminism, philosophy and poetry are foremost in view, but Germaine originally went to University and studied science. It was only in her later years that she was drawn to philosophy, as she said, “philosophy is a tool for understanding the mind of the human condition, in the same way that biology and chemistry teach us about the human body”.

She had an extensive library of science and maintained a lively correspondence with notable female scientists around the world. Those letters were published in a limited run of books, largely unavailable now. If you can find a copy or access her archives, it’s clear that she continued her interest in the intersection of biology and society.

I'm taking screenshots from under my grey rock.

I don't want to tempt fate but I'm getting the feeling that in the light of the Barracker debacle, deletions have decreased. This is a good thing.

Also not wishing to tempt fate, but... I agree.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman

Indeed so. As the curator of what is currently held of Bunbury's work (and we are always on the look-out for rare, out of print copies that Mumsnetters might chase down in those few remaining feminist bookshops that haven't sold the fuck out), I can confirm that her correspondence with scientists and other rational thinkers includes a large number with the late Christopher Hitchens.

One such letter - and this was when Germaine was quite elderly and totally out of fucks to give - includes the following paragraph:

"Less of your wittering about radical Islamists and a bit more attention paid to what I perceive as the growing threat of science-denying men with bizarre fetishes might be a good idea. You're going to scoff at this, but I predict there will come a time when politicians across the spectrum will claim men are women..." The paragraph veers off at this point to a rant about the size of Wagon Wheels - Bunbury's favourite comestible treat, which in her dotage she appeared to believe were shrinking as a result of a campaign by Peter Hitchens, so you can see why C. Hitchens might not have taken her Cassandra-like predictions very seriously at the time.

There's a rash of "why is MN so transphobic?" threads on AIBU
at the moment.

Yes gender neutral toilets last week, why is MN so transphobic this week.

Ah "transphobic" - a word which has cunningly been used to prevent anyone discussing anything the TRAs don't want discussed.

Meanwhile, over on Twitter a (blue ticked) transactivist has been unmasked as a paedophile...

I'm not going to waste the rest of the day by getting drawn into it.

I noticed that.

I also noticed how many different people reply really well now. I love it.

It all gets a bit close to home for me sometimes.

I managed to read about 3 pages of that 'why is MN so transphobic?' thread on AIBU before I couldn't stomach any more of the nonsense.

I amuse myself by imagining pirate battles between the craven dafties who start bunfights in AIBU about wedding etiquette and threads about how horrible FWR is and how they always hide it, and the marvellous gobshites of FWR who start bunfights about wankers on Twitter trying to dismantle safeguarding and talk about what a fucking hellhole AIBU is and how they have to hide it.

We're like the Sharks and the Jets.