Bunbury’s Public Service Announcement 2

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The useful Bunbury Guide to Spotting Community Disruptors is constantly evolving.

The best research and advice is not to engage with community disruptors and trolls. As ever, if you suspect troll activity, report it to MNHQ.

This is a continuation of the first Public Service Announcement thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3321127-public-service-announcement

If and when you see threads plopped into FWR, especially a curious repeat of well worn topics, maybe check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads that are reproduced on Twitter or Facebook to foment controversy using screen shots & flagging to either MNHQ to have threads or posters deleted. Sometimes, it’s used to approach commissioning editors with ideas for articles. It’s a tiresome tactic that we’ve had several community disruptor posters who themselves post the comments that they then highlight elsewhere as purported evidence of racism, religious intolerance, anti-men sentiments, or transphobia.

Some helpful links in following posts.

I wondered about authenticity as the AMA format has been over-used recently

I wouldn't say that. There have been some really interesting threads. OK, there are some daft ones but generally I think they're informative. It all depends on what interests you.

I did one three weeks ago: I'm 30 years sober today. AMA and tbh I've been thrilled by how helpful some people have found it.

Just checking in to say I too like forgotthebins suggestion.

Yes forgetthebins I agree too - maybe make a post on the Site Stuff board?

I made one the other day, suggesting that new posters have to wait a week (or something) before they can start a thread (to try and protect against trolls - they didn’t take it up, but worth asking I thought).

I agree with thebins and actually, MN could have a pinned post explaining the rules of engagement with self-declared minors too. Surely on a website by parents for parents that would be ok? If we can have it on FWR for discussing trans stuff surely, surely we can have something reminding people that we need to practise good safeguarding principles on here as far as possible too....

I did one three weeks ago: I'm 30 years sober today. AMA and tbh I've been thrilled by how helpful some people have found it.

That's a lovely thread, darling.

yes, I read Pawns thread and found it so interesting, I really appreciated her posting it

Good ideas, forgot and others - I'd add that probably it would also be a good idea to report threads started by self-declared minors to MNHQ so they can keep an eye out.

Well, decision time folks.

Yup, ignore or engage ?

I'm going to risk it and engage, seems genuine, could be a mistake but nothing posted previously seems like twitter feed.

If it is genuine I'd rather give the her a place to talk as I think that's what she's looking for ultimately. I'd want someone to do the same for me in her shoes. I've been caught out before though!

Engage if you wish, but let's please remember to be responsible, and definitely pursue a sensible engagement protocol idea with MNHQ in site stuff because I really think that this is exactly where 'they go low we go high' actually fits in - not in cossetting egotistical blokes, but in showing how to act appropriately online with younger people and kids.

Interruptions to the Widows thread irritate me, no end. Yes, even when the sibling, friend etc is grieving and even when they say 'I don't want to de-rail but....'.

It's always about suicides of transwomen. Why is engagment with widows so necessary when you could post in AIBU about inexplicable anger and unresolved questions?

I don't want to see TinselAngel having to justify the exclusivity of the Widows topic every time this happens. It's wearing and exhausting and it's unfair. Report or AIBU?

Not AIBU.

If they're posting about grief after losing someone, wouldn't the bereavement topic be the more appropriate one? It's not a board I've had to use myself, but surely those sorts of emotions following suicides (and other deaths) must come up there?

I don't really mind people posting on the thread if they have good intentions. The times I really object are when it's plopping attackers or people wanting to debate generalities.

Report on basis of Samaritans guidance about discussion of suicide on public fora
I am sure MN have their own policy too.

Thanks everyone. Reported.

Thanks, there seems to be some support for putting up some principles about interacting with young people on FWR. If any more experienced MNers have advice about how to proceed please shout. Otherwise I'll start a new post and hopefully that can act as a reference point in the future. I guess MN will jump in on that if they see anything that conflicts with their existing policies.

I've got some time this afternoon - if you start a thread, we can discuss some best practice, and then maybe suggest something concrete and fully rounded in site stuff that could be stickied?

Your excellent previous post which made the suggestion in the first place seems like a very good rough draft.

Thanks Floral, have done that now - although I put it on FWR and only then noticed the recommendation to put it on "site stuff" so I've asked MN if they can move it there (I think they have to move it not me?). Ideally MNHQ will pick it up and make a recommendation.

Prawn sorry to have been unintentionally rude - I meant the format seemed to have been overused by screenshot hunters on FWR recently, not in general.

No worries, Forgotthebins. How were you to know I'd just done an AMA? And there are some daft ones.

I've really enjoyed some of them. The forensic pathologist was fascinating. And mine seems to have been useful for a couple of people, which was the whole point, so I'm pleased.

Is it OK to draw people’s attention to this AIBU thread here?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3575727-To-want-to-know-it-the-IAAF-are-going-to-introduce-upper-levels-of-endogenous-testosterone-for-male-athletes?watched=1&msgid=86767380#86767380

Thanks for the tip.

Is there some kind of school for hyperbole that these posters graduate from?