Another pregnant "man" and the LGBs having none of it (see comments)

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www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/11/13/im-pregnant-im-not-woman

More in deity narcissism but I revel in the idea that this woman won't have much navel gazing time to aches her identity whilst she's changing nappies, breastfeeding and managing on very little sleep. She'll save time by not having to washed her hair if she still shaved it down but the rest of the time she will pretty much look like any other new mother and as a couple they will look like any other family coping with the pressures of a newborn and all the specialness identity bullshit will fade into parenting tedium.

Whatever. It'll pass as your newborns needs will take over.

Genuine question, how can you be non binary and trans masculine?

What is "trans masculine"?
Men can be masculine and women can be masculine.

And isn't non binary the same as non conforming?

Almost as tedious as Fox and Owl’s boring hetero relationship. I hope to God that if the female one gets pregnant they don’t feel the need to write about it but I won’t hold my breath.

I’m with the PP who mentioned about this baby having a mum who doesn’t want to be her mum. I find that, and the little snippet about looking forward to coming out to her kid, the most horrible part of all this. What kind of narcissistic fuckwit denies her child a mother on purpose? That baby will one day be in a class where they’re making mother’s day cards and she’ll have to what, ignore the whole concept of Mother’s Day? Make a card to “Rory” knowing that it will upset her non-mother because Rory will know why they’ve got a card and they’re NOT A MOTHER.

And isn't non binary the same as non conforming?

It's really what the person claiming it wants it to be as far as I can see.
THe consequences though are access all areas either those of both sexes or a seperate space that is neither sex-based.
Just as some who are non-binary say they are both male/man and female/woman and some say they are neither.

It has much more serious and wide-ranging consequences than are realised.

Important to remember how language is used by cultists. It's not meant to make things clearer. In fact, the only thing it is meant to communicate is who is in, and who is not.

The different labels that collected like Pokemon by adherents of Genderism aren't really meant to tell you anything definable about the adherent. It's meant to keep you off balance so that you either capitulate or be marked clearly as an outsider who needs to be worked on more, or labelled as a heretic.

Well, I burst out laughing at Howard97A's remark.

I’m with the PP who mentioned about this baby having a mum who doesn’t want to be her mum. I find that, and the little snippet about looking forward to coming out to her kid, the most horrible part of all this. What kind of narcissistic fuckwit denies her child a mother on purpose? That baby will one day be in a class where they’re making mother’s day cards and she’ll have to what, ignore the whole concept of Mother’s Day? Make a card to “Rory” knowing that it will upset her non-mother because Rory will know why they’ve got a card and they’re NOT A MOTHER.

Which reminds me has anyone heard updates on the current case whereby the female parent who identifies as male is contesting the birth certificate of the child they gave birth to. They are seeking legally to be named as either father or parent.

It seems a few months since it was in the papers.

You know what this reminds me of?
Grandparents who refuse to be called anything that makes them seem old.

Lass the person in the article referred to themselves as non binary and trans masculine. Up until now, I had thought trans masculine was another word for a transman so I've no idea! Agree that both men and women can have "traditional" masculine traits. That's why the person's description of themselves confused me.

I was trying to understand 'trans-femme' last week:

"Transfeminine is a term used to describe transgender people who were assigned male at birth, but identify with femininity to a greater extent than with masculinity. This can include:

Trans woman

Demi girls
Multigender people who identify as female more than other genders
Gender fluid and demifluid people who are feminine more often than other genders.
Any other Non-binary person who identify as feminine more often than other genders.
Transfeminine can also be used as a gender identity in its own right. Although they have feminine gender identities, transfeminine people may prefer not to conform to stereotypical feminine gender expression or gender roles.

The masculine equivalent of transfeminine is transmasculine."

gender.wikia.com/wiki/Transfeminine

Is there a personality trait they haven't gendered and labelled at this point?!

It's all just so damn silly. You're just people kids, get a grip.

Also, if she’s not going to identify as the baby’s mother, what will she have to call her? Dum? Mad?

Oh I think definitely these two.

R0wantrees

I had wondered about 'transmasculine' too, then I read your post and almost wish I hadn't ;)

When my brain had stoped fizzing, my eyeballs had stopped rolling, I'd finished off the bottle of gin and hit myself over the head with a breeze block ... then I went off and looked online and OH MY GOD.

I must be a masochist - I looked up Mulltigender as well.

"Multigender is a term for anyone who experiences more than one gender identity. It can be used as a gender identity in its own right, or can be an umbrella term for other identities which fit this description.

Multigender identities include bigender (two genders), trigender (three genders), quadgender (four genders), quintgender (five genders), polygender (many genders), pangender (all genders) and genderfluid (variable gender).

Multigender people may experience two or more gender identities at the same time, or their gender identity may change over time (genderfluid). The gender identities they experience may be male, female, non-binary, or genderless.

If a person experiences multiple genders and also experiences the fluctuation of those genders, they could possibly be multiflux and/or one of the varients of it. Multiflux is a term similar to multigender, but it relates to all genders encompassing multiple genders that also fluctuate in intensity."

I'm off to buy more gin. On second thoughts, a nice hallucinogenic might be more suitable.

RetiredNotExpired
Apologies, I should perhaps of included a trigger-need-more-gin warning.

There's obviously so much about this stuff that's damaging to women but it must be difficult on the people with gender dysphoria who really just want to be taken seriously when they go to their doctors for help or they look for support from friends and family for what must be a difficult thing to go through.
To feel wrong in your own sex to that extent. Then they have to face that massive list of stuff which basically just describes most people's experiences of gender stereotypes. I imagine very few people fit into that ideology's idea of male and female. That's how they all end up with complicated labels. It's so damaging. It does more harm than good to women and transsexuals.
Off to find the gin

I am totally multigender from now on. I am going to embarrass the hell out of my kids.

More seriously though, the article was written by someone who, fifteen years ago, would have been a CoolGirl, right? I do actually understand how annoying it is to have society's stupid stereotyping of women, pregnancy and motherhood pushed at you when you've spent all your life pushing back on gendered expectations, but that's what galvanised my feminism, rather than made me want to throw all the other mothers under a bus.

Help me out here; I was trying to think of the five genders a Quintgender (?!) person was getting at, but I got stuck after two...

R0wantrees
Any excuse for gin is a perfectly good reason

I've watched quite a bit of Ash Hardell on youtube, who comes across as a likeable young person, younger than they actually are. They are intelligent and attractive, and have an air of frankness that is very appealing.

And their videos are crammed to the gunnels with endless jargon terms, a - z guides to every possible nuance of human emotion and personality packaged into a unique identity to choose from like a colourful pick and mix selection.

It not at all hard to see the pull that this kind of thing has. Attractive evangelists, a sense of community, a whole new lexicon to set you apart as part of the community and identify you to other believers, and confirm your most special uniqueness.

None of you transphobic TERFs understand: this person cut their hair short - shaved it even! - and wore flannel shirts and jeans and insisted on 'they' pronouns. That makes them a man. Fundamental biological features do not determine sex. Clothes and hair do, got it? Trans theory 101.

I love how trans ideology ignores pregnancy and reproduction most of the time. I guess it's the only way they can manage the intense levels of cognitive dissonance.

The boring old nuts and bolts of human reproduction are oh-so-cisheteronormative! If only we could grow human babies in some gender neutral tank somewhere...

The masculine equivalent of transfeminine is transmasculine."

I'm sorry, I'm not being funny or anything, but... (as the wondeful - Tracey Pritchard,
Senior Communications Officer of W1A would say) but what the hell does that mean?

Fucking hell who has that much time to spend gazing at their own navel?

To be fair, pregnancy does tend to make your navel do amazing things. Mine has never gone back in again how it used to be