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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another pregnant "man" and the LGBs having none of it (see comments)

115 replies

SignMeUp · 27/11/2018 07:37

www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/11/13/im-pregnant-im-not-woman

OP posts:
WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 27/11/2018 16:38

Oh ffs!

Totally agree luna.

Grauniad · 27/11/2018 17:17

married straight people having a baby. What exactly does any of that have to do with LGB issues?

But, but... one of them has short dyed hair! That's got to count for something!

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 27/11/2018 17:25

Is the Tardis involved somehow

I wish the tardis was involved

It would make a lot more sense

NoseringGirl · 27/11/2018 17:50

Genuine question, how can you be non binary and trans masculine? Isn't that a contradiction or have I misunderstood something?

VickyEadie · 27/11/2018 17:51

Genuine question, how can you be non binary and trans masculine? Isn't that a contradiction or have I misunderstood something?

I think we'd all love some clarification on this.

IreneWinters · 27/11/2018 17:53

I am so excited to meet my baby girl. To hold her and to kiss her sweet face. But I’m most excited for the day when she’s finally old enough that I can sit her down and come out to her. I won’t be my daughter’s mom. But I’ll be the best damn parent I can be.

So she’s most looking forward to her poor child being old enough to play the role she has been given in her mother’s fantasy? What will happen if the kid says “yeah, whatever mom, have you washed my jeans?” instead of “wow, non-binary parent, you’re so brave”?

Also, if she’s not going to identify as the baby’s mother, what will she have to call her? Dum? Mad?

FloralBunting · 27/11/2018 17:57

If the TARDIS was involved, the story of a heterosexual couple conceiving and having a child would be about as interesting as the stories in the new series of Doctor Who have been so far...

Yeah. I said it.

Grauniad · 27/11/2018 18:03

What if her darling baby girl has a really grumpy face?

One of mine looked like a tortoise.

Grauniad · 27/11/2018 18:06

To be fair, there are names other than Mum and Dad. One of my more hippy friends at school called her parents Mamma and Ted, for god knows what combined reason. She could just use her name (though
Wor-wy is quite hard for toddlers to pwonounce).

Avegemitesandwich · 27/11/2018 18:12

This person has perfectly illustrated that, no matter how much she might want to, a woman cannot identify out of her female body.

Which is what most of us have been saying all along isn't it?

HalloumiGus · 27/11/2018 18:55

The world has gone mad altogether.

I was a classic tomboy with short hair. In fact I was mistaken for a boy several times pre boobs. It didn't make me a magical non binary unicorn. It just made me a female with short hair who hated make up and liked roaming about like a street urchin.

The comments are hilarious. 'Woman has sex with husband and gets pregnant. Dull.'

Cagliostro · 27/11/2018 19:45

Good luck with the induction em (but don’t assume baby’s gender of course) 💐😀

PositiveVibez · 27/11/2018 19:53

This sentence in one of the comments made me laugh:

'the language around pregnancy is very cisheteronormative'

Erm well it would FFS 🤣

PositiveVibez · 27/11/2018 19:53

*would be

Stickmanslittleleaf · 27/11/2018 21:06

I don't generally give a fuck what other people want to do but it makes me sad that they don't want to be their child's mother. A child needs a mother. I will all day long call them 'they' if it makes them happy and I don't forget. But there is a baby coming into this. A baby can thrive without a mum, whether no biological one or 2 dads it can be fine, as long as it is nurtured but this baby has a mum who doesn't want to be it's mum. But will keep it anyway. You are it's MUM.

AngryAttackKittens · 27/11/2018 21:10

"Why do all these food magazines always assume people will be eating?"

AspieAndProud · 27/11/2018 23:20

This is about as amazing as Rachel Dolezal giving birth to a white kid.

InfiniteCurve · 27/11/2018 23:36

Actually....I am sympathetic up to a point here.From my personal experience of never finding being a woman easy in the sense of managing to behave in the way I'd learnt women were meant to behave and feel kind of way.
I identify as a woman (yay,biology!) but always felt I was doing it wrong.
The time I felt secure and as if I was doing it ok was when I was pregnant and breastfeeding because those are ,to me,indisputably female/woman things.

So I can see that if how you felt was very much wrapped up in not feeling feminine ( though you are still a woman,dude...) that being pregnant might be very difficult to come to terms with,not in the sense of "how can this have happened" but in how it would make you feel.I only have to remember how both I and DD felt on realising that we might have to wear dresses to a wedding.That felt alien and wrong - and it's nothing in the big scheme of things.

FloralBunting · 27/11/2018 23:38

InfiniteCurve that may be so, and I may well understand exactly what you mean, but it's still an article about a heterosexual couple having a baby in the most prosaic way possible, and nothing to do with LGB at all.

Weezol · 28/11/2018 02:35

What if her darling baby girl has a really grumpy face?

One of mine looked like a tortoise.

I've had a shocker of a day (you know, womanning and that) and that comment made me snorty laugh. Thank you.

TheElementsSong · 28/11/2018 09:47

That was just a big load of infantile MeMeMeMeMeMeMeMe.

For the baby's sake, I hope they get over themselves quickly.

R0wantrees · 28/11/2018 10:56

These articles etc are about validating a few people's belief that they are pregnant and not women.
They are intended to shift perceptions and enable/force women's maternity services to stop using women/female as terms.
They have a political agenda as well as the personal ones of those featured.

WomaninBoots · 28/11/2018 10:58

I agree in a way InfiniteCurve... I have no desire whatsoever to be a mum and a pregnancy would come loaded with a lot of very complex feelings and thoughts... but it wouldn't be an LGB issue worthy of a newspaper article in an LGB magazine. It's a Being Female issue or just My Own issue to be honest.

NeurotrashWarrior · 28/11/2018 11:48

Eh????

(In response to the op article)

Danaquestionseverything · 28/11/2018 12:23

HidetoNothing
Apologies for late reply (Timezone). Thanks for your response, I did sometimes wonder if it was just my weird interpretation of things. Smile

Grauniad
LOL - True Story: When my Nanna (RIP) came to visit my mum (RIP) after she had given birth to me. She commented on a baby the nurse was taking from the shared ward. Nanna: Good grief did you see the head of (dark) hair on that baby? It looks like a monkey. Mum; Yeah that’s your grand daughter.

Disclaimer: The dark baby hair wore off and became blonde, at least until puberty.