School in Brighton with 76 trans / gender fluid kids

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So, Dorothy Springer Secondary school in Brighton has 40 pupils that “do not identify as [the] gender presented at birth” and further 36 are gender-fluid, not identifying with their birth gender “all the time” according to the school's equality report and reported in today's Sunday Times.

How can anyone say that's not social contagion?

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/trans-groups-under-fire-for-huge-rise-in-child-referrals-2ttm8c0fr

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Dorothy Stringer High School!

(not Springer)

I thad to be Brighton didn't it?

According to Wikipedia, the school has 1650 pupils.

That means more than 1 in 20 are trans or gender fluid.

Even Stonewall's (massively exaggerated IMO) figures for the general population come nowhere near, at 1 in 100.

The standard line from trans activists is that the increase in trans teens comes from social acceptance.

If that's true then they'll have to say they believe 1 in 20 people in society are actually trans / gender fluid.

What's going on at the school, does anyone know? Is the school encouraging this or is it being in massively woke Brighton?

Milliepede indeed.

I wonder what figures for Leeds are.

Twitter thread here: mobile.twitter.com/mragilligan/status/1066489793490620416

This rapid exponential rise will at last force the government to step in. When they do I hope there is someone there to pick up the pieces for the kids who are already along the path of transition.

I remember when that government self-I'd petition was first started. Most of the signatures were from Brighton.

Over half of girls who identify as boys have been victimized by sexual abusers.

Maybe something is going on in Brighton.

I also wonder how many of the kids at the school are gay/lesbian. 5% is fairly close to the number you'd get of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people added up along with the autistic people.

I also wonder how many of the kids at the school are gay/lesbian. 5% is fairly close to the number you'd get of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people added up along with the autistic people.

There’s a story in today’s MoS about a lesbian girl who was bullied into declaring herself trans. Social Services threatened to remove her from her family because her mother questioned the immediate prescription of hormones:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6425441/Mother-warned-daughter-taken-care-sex-change-row.html

Articles like this and the one published in the MoS are appearing with frightening regularity, yet those in power seem to be ignoring that this is a huge issue with major ramifications for the children affected. Why?

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This is frightening.
But not surprising.

Ah, Brighton.

How much will this eventually cost the NHS?

He is usefully clear about where the influences come from.

Enough, I hope, to encourage schools/the education authorities, or their insurers, to run the Allsorts guidance past sensible lawyers to check for exposure to future (huge) liability claims.

from the article:
"Intriguingly, in every year for the past five, the NHS area covering Surrey, Kent and Sussex, which includes Brighton, has sent more children to Carmichael’s service than the whole of Greater London — although it has half the population

Professionals are under pressure. A Brighton teacher said: “What’s happening is worrying and many of us know it, but nobody wants to speak up and get shot.” The NHS gender service is caught between the demands of groups such as Mermaids, which want children given cross-sex hormones before they turn 16, and women’s campaigners, who accuse it of already bending too far to activists.

NHS England has signed an agreement, influenced by trans activists, never to “suppress an individual’s expression of . . . gender identity”. This still allows a range of treatments, but Richard Byng, a GP and professor in primary care research at Plymouth University, warned of the “potential harm of overdiagnosis and overtreatment” and said that “medical practitioners should follow a framework of evidence, not simply respond to client expectations”.

“People are embarking on medical transitions they may not need or want in the end,” said Jane Galloway. “I fear greatly that in 10 to 15 years’ time, we will find ourselves with a slew of young adults with mutilated bodies, no sexual function, who will turn round to the NHS and ask, ‘Why did you let us do this?’ ”

Its interesting to see analysis of geographical areas beginning. There's some important and very nuanced work that needs to happen in order to better understand what may be happening.

Richard Byng, GP and professor in primary care research at Plymouth University is one of the medical clinicians who wrote the recently published letter in the BMJ:
(extract)
"Regulated medical practitioners should follow a framework of evidence, not simply respond to client expectations. Creating that evidence to inform quality standards is an ethical imperative. We need research to explore the interplays between gender identity, mental health and neurodevelopmental problems, sexual orientation, autogynephilia, and unpalatable gender roles"

thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3410257-BMJ-article-We-need-research-to-explore-the-interplays-between-gender-identity-mental-health-and-neurodevelopmental-problems-sexual-orientation-autogynephilia-and-unpalatable-gender-roles

The funding that these charities are getting from the government is scary in itself isn't it.

And so much more research needs to be done.

I've started following a transwoman on twitter who recently described how hormones affected her health. And the quote in this article about autism being "cured" by gender reassignment, and knowing how powerful hormones are, raises interesting questions that require further study.

Maybe testosterone treatment does help with autistic symptoms. We need to be spending that funding on medical research to see the correlations and have some real science to see what is going on here, not on funding propaganda!

The statistics cited by Green come from LGBT advocacy groups using two self-selected samples, one of 594 young trans people, the other of 27. Responding on Twitter to an NHS psychiatrist who accused her of “making stuff up”, Green wrote: “You need to f off. You know nothing.”

Love that they've printed that little quote from the queen mum herself. Perhaps she could enlighten us all with her actual education and qualifications.

An excellent article that will be hard to ignore.

Also cheering that the school's own statistics don't match the results of the survey. No doubt some teens are messing around but I do hope some are messing around just because they are a little GC and want to make a point in perhaps the only way they can.

Ah, Brighton.

Excuse me??
You don't care about children or women's rights if they're in Brighton... Nice.

The whole gender fluid thing just sounds special snowflake to me. I mean don't most people sometimes wear or use something that's typically associated with the opposite sex?

Think you might be misreading serf

I think it’s that Brighton is one of our old friends along with Leeds. It’s a source of contagion. I guess the MOS school last week was Brighton and I guess the existence of Allsorts is relevant.

This is such an important paragraph referencing SG of Mermaids

In evidence to a Commons committee, she claimed that clients of the NHS service that treats gender-dysphoric youngsters have a “48% suicide attempt risk”. The service itself puts the figure at less than 1%

It's long overdue that the routine false suicide stats are recognised at large.

Allsorts is basically grooming.

^ Meant to write "AllSorts" not bold it.