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ESRC sending millions of pounds to Sally Hines / Leeds Uni to research gender bollocks

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QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 15:03

Ht (twitter.com/DaveDavidDave_/status/1064836550448619522)

There's £700k, for example, for 'Living Gender in Diverse Times'

This features a motley crew of gender cultists:

Helen [redacted] (credited only as 'Helen', and with the email adress of press@mermaids) (she's on twitter as @mimmymum and has an adoring audience of diaper fetishists & furries as she says how great puberty blockers)

Meg-John Barker (partner of Edward Lord, non-binary freemason & big-time TRA), previously featured here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3339137-BACP-Gender-Sexual-and-Relationship-Diversity-by-Dr-Meg-John-Barker

Anna Carlile - gender cultist lecturer at Goldsmiths and Mermaids advocate

Justin Hancock - is a double act with Meg-John Barker (above) megjohnandjustin.com/about-us/

Ruth Pearce - Leeds Uni gender cultist ruthpearce.net/

Emma Renold - professor of childhood studies, promotes transgender identity to children www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5932855/Transgender-muffin-challenge-young-people-reads-like-satire.html

Vanita Sundaram - intersectional feminist type, busy retweeting tweets from TW calling for Rachel Stock to be fired for transphobia twitter.com/VanitaSundaram

Liam Tielemans - works for some sort LGBT charity. Strangely, the emphasis seems to be on the T. www.lgbtconsortium.org.uk/node/3308

Strangely there does not seem to be any non-kool-aid drinkers among their number.

It's not really surprising this crap becomes law & public policy when there's a never-ending stream of cash, public (as here), semi-public (like BBC CiN), and private (Lloyds, etc.)

Follow the money.

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SunsetBeetch · 16/12/2018 08:23

Wtf.

"Very much looking forward to a lovely lazy Xmas break and then to cracking on with my article about why ‘sex’ (as in ‘biological’ not desire) is no longer applicable to contemporary feminist theory and activism."

"No one without an anti trans agenda says female any more. People say women."

twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1074082314945249280?s=19

ESRC sending millions of pounds to Sally Hines / Leeds Uni to research gender bollocks
ESRC sending millions of pounds to Sally Hines / Leeds Uni to research gender bollocks
Needmoresleep · 16/12/2018 08:33

And how does she describe "people".

Presumably only those she does not describe as "transphobic".

Trouble is that some of this really borders on lesbophobiamism (is there a word - there needs to be) and misogyny. But presumably Sally, definer of humxns, does not allow that.

Needmoresleep · 16/12/2018 08:38

Also is there a link for complaints.

My new year's resolution will be to call out any organisation that persists with this silliness. Itf we all do it, perhaps funders will think a bit more critically before dishing out money just to tick the woke box.

ChattyLion · 16/12/2018 08:55
Hmm

Sorry but typically respectable academics don’t try to compel speech and offensively label free, commonplace speech like this- eg Hines’ tweets asserting no one without an anti-trans agenda says...

Furthermore, academics don’t tend to make witless and easily disprovable points in the first place (‘sex is irrelevant to feminism!’) but if they do say something highly contested in the public, typically academics are capable to argue their point then and there.

Or let’s say if they’re trying to have their ‘lovely lazy’ Xmas break already i mid December and (?somehow can’t resist tweeting about their contested idea), typically, academics will be able to just provide a link to their published, peer reviewed recent articles in reputable journals, or to their recent speeches at academic conferences, which can make the case for their contested idea for them.

Suffice to say, way that this academic conducts themselves is not how academic rigour and intellectual probity are normally demonstrated.

It is, however, very much how advocates for a political or religious cause (who are not held to the same types of standards as academics), might behave.

ChattyLion · 16/12/2018 08:56

Thank you SunsetBeetch for posting those tweets here.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/12/2018 09:02

And half a million grant to mermaids from lottery fund.

terryleather · 16/12/2018 09:03

Those tweets - wtaf????

terryleather · 16/12/2018 09:05

SH is an excellent example of a stupid clever person as my dear mother would put it.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/12/2018 09:08

I’m sorry. I know it’s sunday and some may be contemplating going to church...

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/child-sex-change-charity-handed-500-000-by-national-lottery-dvbt7t2kb

SunsetBeetch · 16/12/2018 10:27

Ok she's really giving me the rage now. Talking about Rosa Freedman:

"I disagree with you but I very much respect you Jane. I think you’re super smart and I reckon you’re pretty funny. I wish we were on the same side or at least could have a pint and talk but hey... But RF is something else, she’s a slippery snake and I’m not having it."

twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1074119462524252161?s=19

ESRC sending millions of pounds to Sally Hines / Leeds Uni to research gender bollocks
Galvantula · 16/12/2018 11:08

"no one says female any more" 😂

I'm also thinking WTAF??

Dragon3 · 16/12/2018 11:14

"No one without an anti trans agenda says female any more. People say women."

So doctors, biologists, millions of other scientists have an anti trans agenda?

VickyEadie · 16/12/2018 11:14

Academic at one of our redbrick, Russell group universities says on social media (for all the world to see) of another similar academic "RF is something else, she’s a slippery snake and I’m not having it".

Have I woken up in a world where primary school children are appointed to these posts now?

Floisme · 16/12/2018 11:42

I hadn't realised the word 'female' was considered taboo. I must remember that Wink

Dragon3 · 16/12/2018 11:42

YY Vicky.

I can't help cringing for her. Seriously, since when were academic rebuttals conducted via character assassination on Twitter? Does she have no actual evidence and arguments to present against Prof RF's work?

OTOH it's good she has the lack of professionalism to put this nonsense out in public. Sunlight being the best disinfectant and so on.

WeRiseUp · 16/12/2018 11:52

Just seeing this thread for the 1st time- only on page 2. Wow.

WeRiseUp · 16/12/2018 12:37

Ta

HerFemaleness · 16/12/2018 13:05

SH is an excellent example of a stupid clever person as my dear mother would put it.

Mine would have said, intelligent idiot.

LangCleg · 16/12/2018 13:35

My new year's resolution will be to call out any organisation that persists with this silliness.

I seem to have spent all of 2018 writing annoyed emails!

terryleather · 16/12/2018 16:12

The mothers know!

Fallingirl · 16/12/2018 16:22

Nobody innocently tweets that no one without an anti trans agenda uses ‘female’ anymore, and claims that ‘sex’ is now irrelevant. If those claims were truly the case, there would be nothing worth tweeting about. Let alone writing publishable articles about.

Both claims are contentious andshe nows it. Which makes it seem idiotic to claim that theyhold true for the general population.

I can see that there might be an article in the argument that we should abandon sex as a meaningful category. Which is very different to the claim that everyone already have.

She presumably tweeted that for the purpose of provoking people likeJane Clare Jones and Rosa Freedman. When she didn’t get a response from RF, she decided to call her a snake.

I would not expect this behaviour from a professional academic, or anyadult for thatmatter.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 16/12/2018 16:45

This is good. The more people who see how utterly batshit trans ideologies are the better.

Melanippe · 16/12/2018 20:58

If you read further into that Twitter thread, Dr Hines shows her true colours for the world to see.

SunsetBeetch · 16/12/2018 21:58

Nasty tweets from Sally. Seriously was she drunk??

ESRC sending millions of pounds to Sally Hines / Leeds Uni to research gender bollocks
ESRC sending millions of pounds to Sally Hines / Leeds Uni to research gender bollocks