NHS managers called in a handwriting expert to track down opponents of transgender-friendly toilets

[OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon]

Haven’t got behind the paywall yet but

Ambulance chiefs trap defacer of unisex signs

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ambulance-chiefs-trap-defacer-of-unisex-signs-rcf0g0xc7

Disabled toilets are everywhere and ‘unisex’ so why not say to people to use them instead of building special gender neutral toilets?

The world is going mad

Can we all start again?

Off topic, how on earth do you say Mx, is it Mix?

Agree lused, if I'm in the middle of an emergency, I'd much rather the call handler didn't fuss around staying on the right side of gender orthodoxy.

Us ghoulish TV watchers know that the ambulance service answers the phone by saying 'ambulance, is the patient breathing?'.

God it's so non inclusive isn't it. They need to get with the times. I suggest:

'ambulance, is the patient non binary?'

I'm horrified by this. There is enough casual misogyny and sexual harassment in the ambulance service already without shoving the door wide open to allow more.

So people phoning up in need in an emergency are not to be called the name that they ask for, that will reassure them, but will have a made up title supplied by a group who claim to be so oppressed that nobody must ever go against their agenda.

Sums this whole topic up really.

Bowchicawowow
No, dont take facilities away from people that fought for them because they need them.

CallingDannyBoy said.....

"I think the changes to changing rooms and making them mixed sex is chilling - is that across all ambulance stations? Surely there must have been some consultation and union involvement? Is it just in a small area? I find it hard to believe it hasn’t received more attention? The quote from Fair Play is spot on."

Re the amazement at union involvement.

Something that most people around here for some reason have a difficulty understanding is that if the left are involved in any way, be it your union, your local councillor, your MP,. your work colleague, they are going to be with the program.
Intersectionality was a great idea when you were in the tent pissing out.
Well get your head round this...you're now outside the tent being pissed on.
The sooner we all realise this the better.
Know Your Enemy.

I’ve had to use changing rooms at work - secure airlock style bio security rooms, accessed via changing and showers. So compulsory changing a couple of times day.

The thought of having to share that with men is horrendous. I honestly don’t think I would be able to continue working there .

Imagine the opportunities for predatory men. You know Jenny from the lab is having to enter those rooms at 10am and 3pm every day and will have to shower and change. No escape.

I would refuse to use a mixed-sex changing room. Lockett clearly lacks all empathy if she thinks that just because she doesn't personally care about getting changed in front of men, nobody else will.

Also WTF is that about not addressing 999 callers as Mr or Mrs even if they've asked you to? That's not even trying to avoid unintentional 'misgendering,' that's just being a twat to someone who is already in a very stressful situation.

They also say sometimes they need to know the birth gender for treatment

Handwriting analysis is junk science. The unions should be all over this.

Who the fuck do LAS think they are to lecture 90 year old Mrs Jones about how she should be addressed? Blood boiling now enough to turn me into a black pudding.

But if I did graffiti / criminal damage at work - even if I were protesting something manifestly unreasonable / inappropriate - I would expect my employer to take steps to identify the perpetrator and take disciplinary steps.

Handwriting analysis is junk science. The unions should be all over this.

I suspect this is on the same level as 'razor blades under stickers'. Just a way to spread alarm and force everyone else to do what they're told.

But if I did graffiti / criminal damage at work - even if I were protesting something manifestly unreasonable / inappropriate - I would expect my employer to take steps to identify the perpetrator and take disciplinary steps.

Or perhaps the employer could look at why so many people feel strongly enough to deface printed signs?

A 999 call requesting emergency assistance clearly being the ideal time to educate the caller on the use of preferred pronouns
.
That Head Of Ambulances or whatever her title is is just a misogynist bully.

If you're calling an ambulance, for yourself or another person, you're hardly likely to be in a frame of mind to debate or insist on how you're addressed. So the LAS will then be able to say, if challenged, that patients don't have a problem with this.

abacucat said
"Handwriting analysis is junk science. The unions should be all over this."

See my post at 9:49 above.

You've got two hopes and one of them's Bob.🤔

Loving the fact that posters are saying they expect the perpetrators of the ‘criminal damage’ to be punished, while totally disregarding the concerns of those people who don’t want to get changed with those of the opposite SEX. Fuck the females, we mustn’t upset the boss. 🙄

Lockett insisted staff had no right to be concerned about the changes.

How can a person insist that staff have no rights to their own feelings ?!

These types of policies will force women out of certain professions. I can't help but wonder if some workplaces have seen this as a great opportunity to make it difficult for women to take on roles.

After all, women (the childbearing kind) take maternity leave, ask for breastfeeding areas, get periods that might cause us to take days off. Most employers say that given a choice they would pick a man over a woman to avoid these things.

Now, here is the perfect chance to make the work environment so unfriendly that women won't even apply. And we can't complain that it is a sex-based hate crime, because there is no such thing.

When did bravado become a crime?

Or does bravado not mean the same thing nowadays

Civil disobedience, including graffiti, has a long history and is an honourable and effective way of fighting against unjust laws and petty and ridiculous regulations.

There's some very good books out there on the psychology of what are known as authoritarian followers - the sort of people who somehow internalise the childhood message that "you must do what teacher says" to the extent that it becomes their prime moral directive, overriding all other moral rules and indeed the capacity for independent thought. They are the people who help societies sleep-walk into becoming dictatorships.