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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Writing from Twitter prison!

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Glinner · 16/11/2018 17:28

I've received a twelve-hour ban from Twitter so I thought I'd take the chance to say hello lovely mumsnetters! Thank you for all the support and kind words and very proud to be on your side.

I'm not deleting the tweets because I stand by them and there's nothing offensive about them. See for thyself, fellow witches!

Writing from Twitter prison!
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DebbieInBirmingham · 16/11/2018 21:13

Hi Graham. :-) Sorry to hear about your Twitter ban. Is this your first?

plus3 · 16/11/2018 21:15

Thanks for answering my question - I had always been very liberal regarding it all, although not really thinking that hard about the issue. My moment was around the time Munroe B. starting saying the women were doing feminism wrong Hmm and the fact that there was no debate to had. The erasure of women at the expense of the trans ideology drove me to explore the whole issue further. It is all so wrong and I hugely applaud all the wonderful women of this board who have completely opened my eyes and educated me. Thank you

borntobequiet · 16/11/2018 21:15

The conflation of sex and gender. The idea that someone can literally change sex. The persecution of people who don’t buy into the ideology.

And everything else mentioned by others.

Glinner, I have a very serious brother who I had never heard laugh out loud until he absolutely collapsed with laughter at Father Ted, episode 1, series 1. I treasure that moment. (We’re Irish Catholic background.)

ScienceRoar · 16/11/2018 21:20

What first raised alarm bells with me was the mantra "Trans women are women". When I asked what was meant by "woman" in that context, I was answered with "it means they are women".

The least helpful definition I have encountered since "Brexit means Brexit".

TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld · 16/11/2018 21:22

Twenty odd years ago, having a shower the morning after a night out at a great and very mixed bar/dance place (mixed in the sense of gay friendly, straight friendly and what was back then called TV friendly). And suddenly realising that all the what are now called trans people that I'd offhand chatted to there wouldn't really consider me a woman now that I was naked and not in my evening-out heels and furbelows. It felt like vertigo.

TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld · 16/11/2018 21:25

And: honourable mention for one of those people who had at that time fully transitioned recently and who discussed with me about whether joining the workplace women's TU section would be appropriate. We both agreed it wouldn't, because life history.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 16/11/2018 21:26

bitter
The Spartacus threads are still there.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/2716595-TransAgenda-BullShit-The-I-am-Spartacus-Thread?pg=1&order=

NightmareDaemon · 16/11/2018 21:28

I’ve posted this before but it was this New Yorker article 4 years ago:
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/04/woman-2

I just read it and thought, “what the fuck did I just read?”

4 years on and I still can’t believe it.

Glinner · 16/11/2018 21:30

Thank you for all these responses!

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Glinner · 16/11/2018 21:31

I'd love to get you all round a table with one of these fucking beard bros and hear him try to lecture you on who is and isn't a woman.

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Binglebong · 16/11/2018 21:31

Honourable mention to #NoDebate. Any time you say something can't be discussed I immediately wonder what's being hidden. I know I'm not alone in that.

sackrifice · 16/11/2018 21:32

They wouldn't dare do it face to face Graham. That is why there is #NoDebate. They would get shredded.

Glinner · 16/11/2018 21:33

"I realised something was very, very wrong when they were alerting women to a sex offender woman who was on the loose, and sometimes disguised herself as a man." Wowowowowowwwww

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Binglebong · 16/11/2018 21:34

Bugger, two uses of the phrase honourable mention in such close proximity offends my sense of prose. Sorry beautifuldog although my dog is WAY more gorgeous than any other it was a cross post.

spannablue · 16/11/2018 21:35

Ok that's the last time any of you are allowed to say I must have been heavily influenced by a man.

sackrifice · 16/11/2018 21:35

Wowowowowowwwww

I know, right?

It particularly got to me as it was my local area...How fucking dare they lie like that?

ScienceRoar · 16/11/2018 21:36

When I first realised that the ideology was dangerous was when I saw that any efforts to group women together were considered offensive unless they included trans women and excluded trans men.

spannablue · 16/11/2018 21:36

Not everyone here likes your 'contributions' Glinner

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 16/11/2018 21:38

The Lisa Hauxwell thing really was bonkers

southleedslife.com/47575-2/

Guess what: it's WYP again.

Catsandbootsandbootsandcats · 16/11/2018 21:38

Hello! I'm not sure when my peak moment was as I've always been pretty dubious about the whole thing.

I was a very gender non conforming child and desperately wanted to be a boy from around the age of 4 till I was 15/16. It filled me with horror to think if I'd been a child now I'd have possibly been put on puberty blockers and hormones, worn a chest binder, maybe had a mastectomy etc (I really really hated my breasts until well I to adulthood. Can't say I'm that keen on them still!)

I'm a heterosexual woman, a mother. Something that would have been denied to me if I'd have transitioned.

It's so scary to think there are kids out there that could be denied the chance to be a parent because they didn't fit the stereotype of their gender as a child.

Thank you for speaking out. And thank you for the comedy that I've loved sharing with my kids, who are also fans of your work. Speed 3 is the best out of all the Speed films!

If only those priests had identified as women they could have just walked out of Ireland's largest lingerie department instead of having to sneak out.Grin

sackrifice · 16/11/2018 21:39

Not everyone here likes your 'contributions' Glinner

Why the ' ' around contributions?

Are you saying they identify as contributions but are not really contributions?

cooblanket · 16/11/2018 21:41

I'd love to get you all round a table with one of these fucking beard bros and hear him try to lecture you on who is and isn't a woman.

I loved your tweet saying "Oh fuck, I’ve attracted the attention of Owen Jones, The Young Prince of Men Telling Women Who Is And Isn’t A Woman"

Grin
cooblanket · 16/11/2018 21:42

Are you saying they identify as contributions but are not really contributions? Grin

spannablue · 16/11/2018 21:43

This is an echo chamber and this guy is in here to get a nice pat on the back for being horrible to a group of people. Yuk

arranfan · 16/11/2018 21:43

I realised something was very, very wrong when they were alerting women to a sex offender woman who was on the loose, and sometimes disguised herself as a man."

Wowowowowowwwww

Lisa Hauxwell... :

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2872690-to-think-it-is-CRIMINAL-to-describe-male-rapists-as-women