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Comic Relief - Women Wednesdays. Really?

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NibblyPig · 14/11/2018 21:50

Another day, another outrage. Comic Relief's Women's Wednesdays launches with a bit about, umm, Lili Elba. Because there obviously aren't any women they could honour Angry

twitter.com/comicrelief/status/1062768558587998209?s=19

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JoanSummers · 15/11/2018 15:47

Hmm.

It must be difficult to be that stupid.

Comic Relief - Women Wednesdays. Really?
Comic Relief - Women Wednesdays. Really?
Charliethefeminist · 15/11/2018 15:51

Transactivists are all over it now. This second tweet is in a way quite helpful. It confirms that alienating women is deliberate, it's a declaration of war.

Melamin · 15/11/2018 15:59

They certainly embedded themselves into a trench with that that tweet.

PreseaCombatir · 15/11/2018 17:17

Ffs, I was expected a period of silence, then to carry on as of nothing had happened.
That second tweet just takes the piss

TheChampagneGalop · 15/11/2018 17:59

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TheChampagneGalop · 15/11/2018 18:01

Imagine being a female artist in the 1910s-20s and then your husband decides he is a demure ladyyy and he is the one who is celebrated in movies and such.

OldCrone · 15/11/2018 18:11

Comic Relief firmly believes every individual has the right to be who they are and to define their own identity.

The right to identify as something you are not can conflict with the rights of the people whose identity you are appropriating.

Why is this so hard to understand?

ShotsFired · 15/11/2018 18:17

Comic Relief tweet upthread: "ruining the cause"

This isn't a fucking surprise birthday party. The glibness with which they think womanface should be adopted, and the the subsequent stampy-footed tantrum when someone else does it in a different way is revolting. Just vile.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 15/11/2018 18:22

oldcrone check out some of the replies to that tweet 😆

Ereshkigal · 15/11/2018 18:23

Yeah, like the crowdfunding trans lobby has the spare cash to give to Comic Relief. Fuck off Woketopians.

Ereshkigal · 15/11/2018 18:23

We should tweet about Gerda.

NibblyPig · 15/11/2018 18:28

"Seriously, transphobes?"

They're talking about us again

twitter.com/gaystarnews/status/1063134537448861697?s=19

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EchoCardioGran · 15/11/2018 18:44

Well that's Gaystarnews towing the Party Line again.
Some kid who likes frocks in charge of the tweeter.
Nothing to do with trans people who have been appropriated in this sickening saga.

Pywife2 · 15/11/2018 18:44

Actually, Champagne the movie was fairly ambiguous about who The Danish Girl in the title was meant to be. I took it to be about the wife more than the unfortunate man.

TheChampagneGalop · 15/11/2018 18:45

Seriously, sexists?

TheChampagneGalop · 15/11/2018 18:50

Pywife2 I have not watched the movie since everyone who had seen it only talked about the stunning and brave husband/trans "girl", if it portrays Gerda Wegener well too then it's good to hear .

Prestonsflowers · 15/11/2018 19:37

angry Attack I just knicked your phrase Wanker Wednesday. I suggested Jess Bradley as the first nominee.
I’m probably going to be blocked from Twitter again

soloula · 15/11/2018 19:42

Seven days in a week. Women get one - just one of those seven - dedicated to them. And the first woman they choose is a man in a dress. I'm beyond despair.

Pywife2 · 15/11/2018 21:40

I watched with trepidation, Galop but it was a much better film than I expected. I think it was deliberately ambiguous.

ShotsFired · 15/11/2018 21:45

The propaganda teams are the most talented out of the lot of them (although the bar is not exactly high...).

Admittedly their vocabulary is minuscule, but they wield it effectively!

TorchesTorches · 16/11/2018 12:44

Just got a response to my complaint which I made on their website. Nonsense first paragraph about tackling 'gender based violence' (would that be male violence against women perhaps? surely that is sex based violence...) Second paragraph mirrors the tweet sent, namely 'it is our firm belief that everyone has the right to be who they are and define their identity.'

What a load of cock.

EverardDigby · 16/11/2018 12:51

everyone has the right to be who they are and define their identity

Yep, I don't disagree with that. But it doesn't give them the right for everyone else to go along with it.

Btw I am the Queen.

FlippinFumin · 16/11/2018 14:25

I also think there might be some tweaking of the trans narrative. I noticed they are calling us gender critics misogynists. Interesting. Or am I just noticing and it’s been happening ages?

IveHitPeakTumeric · 16/11/2018 14:27

This was my complaint:

I'm really disappointed that for the first ever Women's Wednesday you feature a person who is not a woman.

You say on the website that the purpose of the weekly column is to give the 'spotlight to an inspirational female', who has 'spearheaded movements for other women'.

As far as I can see, Lily Elbe has done nothing of note for women. Lily Elbe's achievements have been entirely self-serving and all about Lily Elbe. Adopting an identity based on a female stereotype and reducing the complex and multi-layered concept of 'woman' down to: 'object for the male gaze' is not inspirational.

There are many, many, many women (by which I mean adult females with XX chromosomes) who have turned their interest outwards, away from a preoccupation with their identity, and have focused their efforts on trying to improve things for everyone, not just for themselves or a select few. And in doing so, they have, by default, challenged female stereotypes. Which is a much better message to underline the idea that you can be whoever and whatever you want to be. Lily Elbe's sole achievement seems to be just that - conforming to a gender stereotype.

In the context of the debate happening around trans identity and the proposed self-ID amendments to the GRA, women are having to take up the fight all over again to protect their hard fought-for, protected spaces. Spaces they need by reasons of their biology.

It is therefore very disheartening, if not unsurprising, to see another space created for women, supposedly to celebrate their achievements, being encroached upon by someone who was born a man.

I really think you could have done better. And I feel sorry for all the women whose achievements you overlooked in favour of Lily Elbe's wardrobe.

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