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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

WTF Teen Vogue?

106 replies

Badstyley · 08/11/2018 23:52

This is anal 101, for teens, beginners, and all inquisitive folk.

Fucking hell, anal sex for teens? When I was a teen bum sex was something only gay men did. I’m in a state of perpetual shock at just how porn soaked our society is and how horrible it must be for girls and young women.

Link below

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Badstyley · 08/11/2018 23:52

www.teenvogue.com/story/anal-sex-what-you-need-to-know

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cockBlocker · 09/11/2018 00:17

Normalising anal sex for teenage 'vagina owners' (FFS). Speaking from my modest experience with younger men, they are so bad at sex now, no idea about foreplay because they grow with porn that's aimed entirely at male fantasies and pleasure. Depressing!

Whatsnewpussyhat · 09/11/2018 00:37

A whole article completely avoiding the words man and woman. At least the fucking diagrams were correct.

People with a prostate, vagina owners. Pathetic.

MingoMingo · 09/11/2018 00:53

Did you actually read the article?

RCohle · 09/11/2018 00:59

I've never got involved in the trans discussion on MN before, but this is first time I've seen the terms man/woman avoided in "real life" and bloody hell it's ridiculous.

"Vagina owners", Christ almighty.

And whilst I appreciate 19 yo's are "teens", I thought teen vogue was aimed more at the 14/15 year old crowd. I had no idea they had explicit Cosmo-esque sex advice, let alone about anal. I think this completely normalises sex for young teens and puts pressure on young woman to engage in what in my day would have been considered pretty extreme forms of sex.

I also noticed that the article had to be edited to emphasise the importance of safe sex Hmm.

GrinitchSpinach · 09/11/2018 01:17

And also, yes yes some women enjoy this form of sex and I'm sure they'll chime in soon, BUT...this is a type of sex basically guaranteed to get the penis-owner off and almost guaranteed to do not much directly for the CLITORIS-owner involved.

KatVonGulag · 09/11/2018 06:24

Lol at the vagina havers and prostate owners

Shame they don't mention what happens when you loosen that muscle too much 💩

Micke · 09/11/2018 07:13

There's a definite disturbing push at the moment to normalise what I would class as extreme sexual behaviour for 15/16 year old girls.

I put on the new Sabrina (the teenage witch) show from Netflix, and it's about a girl who's just turned 16, yet there's been a shot of her getting out of the bath (naked from behind, side boob), plenty of her down in her underwear, and whilst she's 'chaste' the other pupils at the witch school have been up to all sorts, including a group sex scene! High School Students!

(and don't get me started on the girl who dresses like many of us did in the 80s - short hair, jumper and cords - but is being bullied for it by boys and parents alike and considered some special unique person because of her desire not to dress like all the other girls......)

Zipyy · 09/11/2018 07:20

Oh my fucking god! Really!!! What the hell!!!

ZuttZeVootEeVro · 09/11/2018 07:37

There was a thread here about it when the article was published.

It was widely criticized for being inappropriate for its teen readership and also focused on male rather than female biology - the clitoris and wasn't even on diagram.

The magazine claimed the criticism was based on homophobia Confused.

Badstyley · 09/11/2018 07:47

I see, homophobia about anal sex between penis havers and vagina havers? I see...

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GraceTheDisgrace · 09/11/2018 15:13

When this first came out, there was backlash, and the editor of Teen Vogue (a gay man if I recall correctly) claimed that all the backlash was "homophobia."

GraceTheDisgrace · 09/11/2018 15:13

oops how did I not see Zutt commented the same right above? sorry.

VickyEadie · 09/11/2018 15:15

HOW is saying that objecting to promotion of a kind of sex between teen girls and boys that does little or nothing for the girls "homophobia"?

Datun · 09/11/2018 16:00

When this originally came out they called the diagrams prostate havers and non-prostate havers.

The clitoris wasn't even labelled. So the orgasm centre for women is not even on the diagram.

Maybe they think it's homophobic because actually they are trying to appeal to young gay men. But what they look like they're doing is encouraging anal sex in under age girls.

I can't remember who it was now, but someone supplied a link to a survey which said something like 96% of girls do not want anal sex. And the boys said they know this, but want it anyway. All tied up with the Valentine's Day card which said if you love me you'd do anal.

As far as I know teen vogue is read by minors. And from what I recall, the author of that article also writes about BDSM for teens.

It's irresponsible, pornography driven, male centred garbage.

happydappy2 · 09/11/2018 16:04

I thought it was totally inappropriate in a teenage magazine for girls. Maybe in a teen gay publication but not one aimed primarily at girls.

FermatsTheorem · 09/11/2018 16:09

Datun, it was this article in the BMJ:

bmjopen.bmj.com/content/4/8/e004996.short?g=w_open_current_tab

It's an open access article, well worth a look. Though a very depressing read.

beyondthesky · 09/11/2018 16:12

Glad I clicked on that pic in an office full of people Big grin: Grin

But you're right, it is so very depressing how normalised it is. As far as I could tell there was no mention of the potential damage it can cause long-term.

Datun · 09/11/2018 16:16

Sorry, it was 75% of girls said they don't want to have anal sex.

On that basis, where are all the articles which promote providing young girls with the tools to maintain their boundaries?

Where are all the advice columns telling them what to say because 75% of them don't want anal sex, but most boys do?

Where the tools showing how to deal with that situation? One that is far more likely to be happening to them.

Instead of an annual article telling them how they will enjoy anal sex.

Interestingly this article has been re-packaged since it was originally written.

The original article declined to mention condoms, I believe. Or added them as an afterthought.

It's clearly something that the editors of teen vogue want to promote on an annual basis.

I haven't re-read this particular article, because the original was bad enough. But do they advise young heterosexual boys to take a dildo up the arse? Since it's so lovely, and heterosexual girls should be indulging in it.

Here is the original thread from 2017.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2980781-Teen-Vogue-article

There was an outcry on Twitter, to which the editors responded by posting a photograph of them snogging and flipping women the bird.

Just sort of reaction you expect when you are concerned about your 13-year-old being pressured into anal sex.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/11/2018 16:16

The advantage of anal sex for a girl is that you don't get pregnant and you don't lose your virginity...

I used to do sexual health stuff with teens and it was depressing that the girls just didn't know about orgasms etc, sex was something done to you, not something you were really involved in.

Datun · 09/11/2018 16:18

Thanks FermatsTheorem. Jogged my memory there.

I'll bookmark that for reading at some other point.

This relentless pressure on young women, which has them showing up at gender clinics in droves to identify away from it.

Ugh.

AngelsSins · 09/11/2018 16:44

Next up “how to gag on a cock like a porn star - your penis owner partner will love seeing your tears”. Just revolting. The utter hatred for women seems so strong at the moment.

TigerDrankAllTheWaterInTheTap · 09/11/2018 16:50

www.independent.co.uk/student/news/students-outraged-as-yale-fraternity-suspended-for-no-means-yes-chants-establishes-chapter-at-9092845.html

Really vile. Seems to be a very widespread trend. I'm so glad I'm not young.

Datun · 09/11/2018 16:52

One of the aspects on the original thread that struck me was quite how difficult it appeared to be to object to this article.

It was called informative, the kids were doing it anyway, and a general feeling that you might be a bit pearl clutchy.

But you can't escape the fact that 75% of girls have said they don't want it, boys have said they do, it's porn driven (and therefore completely normalised, but only from the male point of view), and that teen vogue is not an information sheet, it's an aspirational magazine aimed at 13-year-olds who are three years away from any sex even being legal.

(For the avoidance of doubt, the concept of adult women who like bum sex is entirely different).

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 09/11/2018 17:01

Oh god.

I don't want to raise my kids in this world.

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