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Burgers: A Review

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/11/2018 12:36

Alabanza retweeted these reviews:

BURGERZ by @travisalabanza was an absolutely phenomenal piece of work. So intricately written with such an important message, perfectly woven into a performance that felt both fierce and tender - all whilst deeply rooted in authenticity. Oh and the direction? Sublime 👌🏾

I saw the matinee of #Burgerz by @travisalabanza yesterday and it feels so special to have been there. Part emotional release, part humorous romp, part ritual - retelling and reclaiming of trauma - it was flawlessly managed and controlled. Hats off! Such strength and beauty 💜

Alabanza didn't retweet this one:

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1058834677828644867.html

Which is a shame as it appears to be very accurate (and entertaining) Enjoy Grin

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AngryAttackKittens · 04/11/2018 20:23

we saw Travis again, posing for photos balanced on a skip

Classy!

HebeMumsnet · 04/11/2018 20:57

Evening folks. Just for the avoidance of any confusion or offence here, we wanted to point out that Travis's Albanza's website says Travis's pronouns are 'they' and 'them'. If you could stick to using those or just Travis's name, that would be very helpful. Thank you!

littlbrowndog · 04/11/2018 21:00

Lols hebe. All the lols
Confused and dazed here
😂😂

littlbrowndog · 04/11/2018 21:02

And I am never a folks. Ever

FFSFFSFFS · 04/11/2018 21:05

Hi Hebe - I was not aware that I had to google each time to check to make sure that I was being correctly submissive in making sure to refer to a man in the way he dictates.

But for sure - free speech to use common modes of speech - I've noted that this is not in accordance with mumsnet policy and will make sure to self censor myself.

BTW - just to keep you up to date - we have always been at war with Eurasia.

littlbrowndog · 04/11/2018 21:08

💪 fffsss
They them pffft

littlbrowndog · 04/11/2018 21:09

Sunday mods. Ever such

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/11/2018 21:12

I was not aware that I had to google each time

This^ Seriously MN, do we really have to research everybody's pronouns before we can post. Or do you really insist we just use the individual's name or the horribly clumsy singular "they".

Is MNHQ really saying we must not use sexed pronouns as is customary in the English language because they might be wrong?

And if we do use the wrong pronouns, what actual harm does it cause?

FFS this is more like 1984 every day

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Datun · 04/11/2018 21:45

Travis identifies as they? But last I heard Travis was identifying as a 15-year-old girl for Halloween. Put the selfie on social media n all sorts.

That was right after their bestie, Alok, said that parents had no idea how knowing their little girls were, as they were 'kinky and deviant'.

PutYourShirtOnMartin · 04/11/2018 21:46

I am an old punk

I will be doing a show called 'piss' about the bottle of piss that was once thrown at me as I threw myself about a dance floor to some shite band.

BettyDuMonde · 04/11/2018 21:53

Oh! Oh! Can we collaborate and call our collective show

‘Piss, Pop, Taylor Swift, Fishnets’?

Grin
HamiltonCork · 04/11/2018 21:53

It will be a cold day in hell Before I ever use the pronouns they/them.

NotTerfNorCis · 04/11/2018 22:02

Boggling at the pronoun thing. I can see why someone who identifies as female (in spite of biology) wants to called 'she'. But wanting to be called 'they'? Does this person identify as hermaphrodite or as multiple people?

BigotedWoman · 04/11/2018 22:13

Crikey Not, imagine there being more than one Travis Alabanza in the world.

LangCleg · 04/11/2018 22:17

Evening folks. Just for the avoidance of any confusion or offence here, we wanted to point out that Travis's Albanza's website says Travis's pronouns are 'they' and 'them'. If you could stick to using those or just Travis's name, that would be very helpful. Thank you!

Poor Hebe!

MenstruatorExtraordinaire · 04/11/2018 22:18

Maybe we could crowdfund to go to see the show and then not actually go and see the show and go and get pissed somewhere instead. Because it sounds monumentally shit.

LangCleg · 04/11/2018 22:22

We might be better off crowdfunding for an encyclopaedia of pronouns. Plus some integrated search and replace app to join it up with Mumsnet.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/11/2018 22:26

We might be better off crowdfunding for an encyclopaedia of pronouns. Plus some integrated search and replace app to join it up with Mumsnet

That had occurred to me too. It'd need to be some sort of widget whereby people could enter their current pronouns, and then if their name was posted anywhere it could autoenter there pronouns.

Maybe it'd be simpler for MNHQ to implement a pronoun filter though. Anytime anyone posted "he" "she" "him" "her" the site could auto replace it with asterisks?

I do find it quite entertaining that I can post "cunt" on MNHQ with no repercussions, but when I accidentally call a male "he" I get an official warning...

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Ereshkigal · 04/11/2018 22:27

Piss, Pop, Taylor Swift, Fishnets’?

I think it would be an amazing theatrical event.

The act of shaping trauma into something of such beauty and with such teaching power is remarkable.

As someone said about "Burgerz".

badgirlswatchagonnado · 04/11/2018 22:29

Wait, does @MNHQ expect us to research every single TRA we discuss here? Seriously?

LangCleg · 04/11/2018 22:30

I mean, ItsAllGoingToBeFine, half of them are in tech, right? Why haven't they already thought of this? It would save so much time.

Oh!

Do I sniff things like Duluth, wheels, coercion and control?

Perish the thought! I will refer myself to the jolly-times gulag immediately!

littlbrowndog · 04/11/2018 22:32

They do it’s a new thing. Pronoun checking
Hope they checked mine
Cos I don’t do the general “ folks “thing and I might have a literal waftie explosion
FFS

IKeepFlouncing · 04/11/2018 22:33

Sorry I don’t understand? Honestly all these fucking prenouns and made up words are a mind field to me. I lost many hours trying to just to decipher MN abr to be able to read posts

It that person a mumsnetters?

And what about my religious beliefs that I can only refer to sexes

I got a clip round ear referring to people as she followed by who’s she the cats mother.

They are going to the park (Group)
That man is going to the park
That woman is going to the park

I don’t look at THAT persons website. It has no bearing to mumsnet, I here to chit chat with the women

AngryAttackKittens · 04/11/2018 22:36

Maybe we need a sticky with the pronouns of the most prominent and likely to be discussed TRAs. In some cases those would need to be updated daily, so extra Gin for whichever poor sod at MNHQ ends up with that job.

littlbrowndog · 04/11/2018 22:42

You kittens
Or angry
Or attack
How shall I address you?
Or tomcat
Or lady cat
Or lady kitten
Or is it only the special get the special treatment
And the rest of us common or garden women can get called whatever it is the fuckers want to call us like terf.
Ffs