Jordan Peterson on Question Time next Thursday

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As somebody fairly new to the self ID debate, could somebody please tell me how Jordan is connected? And what (if anything) this means for next week?

@BernardBlacksWineIcelolly

I think that the "p" word was the derogatory word for "Pakistani"

oh, thank you TrashyTerf

Yes, sorry for lack of clarity.

There were calls for David Irving to be ‘banned’ yet his Holocaust denying arguments were ripped apart in the academic world before being ripped apart again in the courts. Who listens to him now?

And didn't he previously have a reasonable reputation as a historian? (Wasn't he the person who identified the Hitler diaries were fake?) So he was damned by his own words.

I think I didn't count those as offensive language because she was using them as examples from what I recall. I think it's OTT to give warnings for stuff like that. To me language is only offensive if you are using it at someone in a negative way not just talking about it calmly and using the words as examples of how language has changed.

Personally I think a poster on here has been using pretty hateful language about Peterson and anyone who has expressed any admiration or agreement with him.

Beyond thinking it says more about the poster in question than anyone else I'm happy to let her rant away.

I am also mostly in favour of free speech. I think the issue with managing 'free speech' versus 'harassment' online gets unnecessarily complicated (the difference between a pub conversation, an ill-mannered comment in a row and following someone round with a megaphone telling them how awful they are should not be that difficult to establish) - and I don't have a lot of time for those people complaining how 'silenced' they are all over the TV and national newspapers.
And I remain faintly amused by poor old Bindel getting no-platformed. She was such a fan of it when it only happened to other people.

I didn't know that about Bindel and no platforming. I know it was a thing in the 8Os that has become the accepted norm among younger people I see / hear commenting.

Ive beverage been a fan of no platforming. It annoyed me when people wouldn't share platforms with UKIP. Most of them were racist plonkers and allowing them to air their opinions shouldn't be a scary prospect unless you have no dealings with the general public and believe they need sheltering from people because they are easily led sheep. That sort of contempt by woke lefties makes people hate them and distrust them and be more likely to support people thought too dangerous and popular to speak

Beverage? Should be never!

The first leader of Pegida UK resigned after his first interview as it went so badly.

No platforming him would have actually helped him by not exposing his inability to debate. As it is, I can only remember the story and not his name.