Famous undeclared GC people?

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Who do you think might be gender critical on the quiet? David Baddiel has just posted something about polyamory on a twitter thread about the doxxing of a GC uni professor. I think he must see this is all Pomo nonsense. Obviously we have Graham Linehan who’s been a compete star.

But are so many other intelligent, critically thinking famous people out there, especially the comedians, there must surely be some who are desperate to call out TRA bullshit. Where are they all hiding?

Hannah Gadsby?

Might be clutching at straws, but this was the Jennifer tweet. jennifer saunders (@ferrifrump) Tweeted:
Dear @BBCNews please note how many times ‘women’ and ‘girls ‘ and ‘victims’ are mentioned and at no point the word ‘man’ or ‘men’ . Who is doing the harassment? t.co/kczNPFCaXC twitter.com/ferrifrump/status/1054643895756378112?s=17

Should we really not discuss this? Honest question - is it out of bounds?

An artist called Nina Edge got sacked from a uni for tweets a couple of days ago, after a few hours' campaign against her. Who would put their head above parapet?

I think it's fine to discuss and, where appropriate express disappointment. And anything which is clearly already out there in the public domain, well, that's not going to 'out' anyone.

Regardless of whether she's GC or not, that's a jolly good tweet from Saunders!

I'm sure I've seen Richard Dawkins comment on it once too, can't remember what exactly but it was on the rational science-based side

Dawkins is getting on a bit and his health isn’t too good. He had a stroke last year. He might touch on the subject in passing but I don’t think he wants to pick a new fight at this late stage in his career.

I’d like to hear Prof Alice Roberts or Nessa Carey speak up.

Carey’s possibly not a household name but as a science writer (she’s written on epigenetics) and a lesbian she has some skin in the game.

It’s shocking that expressing a genuinely held belief, which aligns with scientific fact and is not hateful, can be silenced like this. I absolutely deplore that they’ve done in higher education to squash this debate, it’s shameful. My heart goes out to Nina Edge.

I think Brian Cox made some mild joke about how when he was a lad cis and trans referred to isomers and then suffered a pile on and withdrew.

I agree about JK Rowling. I suspected it long before she started "liking" GC tweets. I noticed that she would frequently call out racism, misogyny, homophobia, classism, etc. online, but always stayed quiet about trans issues. That was very telling.

Given the track record so far, @Glinner has found himself in trouble with the police, and Alison Moyet was hounded into backing out and leaving Twitter. People at universities are obviously at risk of losing their jobs. A few celebrities have enough money that they no longer need to earn, but many others probably fear a big drop in income as there are massive tax bills to be met and bills to be paid.

There are still too few “out” for safety in numbers. And probably still many who are wondering what all the fuss is about.

It’s the cowardice and ignorance of politicians that has really shocked me.

True. It’s the politicians who really do have a responsibility to engage with this issue.

Mary Beard is also staying very quiet.
And tbf, I don't blame her.

I think with politicians there is something of a justification. I feel very certain that plenty of MPs are working behind the scenes on this but feel that their efforts would be undermined by going hugely public. I think it's true that a lot of work can be done quietly - after all they are legislators, and will feel that they will stand up when it matters, at the vote.

Prof Brian Cox's wife is openly GC, she RTs Magdalen Burns. Duncan Bannantyne tweeted about changing rooms.
I'd love Peter Kay to do a sketch on TRA.

The people I think who need to speak up are the big names/leaders in health, social care and education. They work with the vulnerable day in day out and understand safeguarding.

Couldn't remember her name but she's Gia Milinovich.

Have followed her now. Her most recent retweet was of glosswitch. Excellent.

Thinking back, I’m pretty sure Brian Cox’s joke was a response to attacks on his wife.

Wasn’t she a signatory on a letter asking for honest debate, or something equally heinous?

Individually they are vulnerable.

But if every GC celebrity, CEO, MP, Editor, sports player, came out at the same time then there would be strength in numbers.

Daisy Lowe and I think possibly Maxine Peake might have posted something supportive about the adult human female posters but then deleted what they’d said. Might have that wrong though.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3380491-AIBU-to-suggest-FWR-keeps-an-eye-out-for-Instagram-discussion-too

So people can be sacked by their employers for expressing perfectly reasonable, rational points of view?

I wonder how that would hold up in an employment tribunal.

I think Richard O'Brien who brought us the original Sweet Transvestite is GC too.

Richard O'Brien suffered quite the backlash a few years ago when he stated he could never fully be a woman.

Just catching up.

Prof Alice Roberts - definitely spoke out against gendered brains in a bbc documentary with Michael Mosley. Where that leaves her in real life I'm not sure. She certainly knows a lot about sexing skeletons and how the homosapien female pelvis allowed for bigger brains etc.

*Mary Beard is also staying very quiet.
And tbf, I don't blame her”

I vaguely remembered Mary being GC and being targeted, so I googled and found this....
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/people/mary-beard-battered-after-being-accused-of-transphobia-and-subjected-to-trolling-10048849.html%3famp

This is from 2015! This silencing has been going on for years and it’s still bloody happening. I think the only consolation is that they haven’t fully susceeded in silencing us, yet!

There's Beatrix Campbell too.

Katie Hopkins.

I wonder what Esther Rantzen thinks about transing children, given her work with Childline.

This train of thought led me to strong, no nonsense women from my childhood like Anne Robinson and Janet Street Porter. O refuse to believe they buy this cock and bull.

Didn't one of the chasers off The Chase say "you used to be a man" to a trans contestant?

Anne Hegarty (to Paris Lees)

And on that note - Matthew Wright

Thanks. I need to look for that clip...

On that note, there is also Julia Hartley Brewer and Nick Ferari from the famous "there are angry women, Nick" interview where a man who wears frilly knickers every Tuesday tried to categorise women.