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Oxford Student newspaper doxes Twitter account by possible criminal unauthorised use of a comptuer system

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QuietContraryMary · 26/10/2018 14:29

Heads up.

www.oxfordstudent.com/2018/10/26/transphobic-tweets-linked-to-oxford-sociology-professor/

"The Twitter account, named Henry Wimbush and still online at the time of publication, has been tweeting statements such as “transphobia is a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons” since first Tweeting in January.

"it was found that the account in question could be linked to a partial phone number and Yahoo! email using freely available data and by making use of Twitter’s various functions. The Yahoo! email itself is also linked to a phone number ending in the same numbers as those previously identified, while also revealing that it is connected to the" [partially redacted email]

How this hack works:

go to twitter.com/login

click 'forgotten your password'

type in your username, or a third party's username

you will get a message something like this:

We found the following information associated with your account.
Text a code to my phone ending in 12.
Email a link to ab*********@a.**

Note that:

  • the last digits of the phone number can be used to tie your account to any phone number, since there are obviously 100 different combinations, so if it matches a phone number known by the doxer, it essentially identifies you
  • I'm not clear exactly how much information is given on email addresses in every case, but at a minimum you get the first two letters of the username (before the @), the first two letters of the domain name (the bit after the @), and the exact length of both parts of the address.

So for example, if you signed up, anonymously, to Twitter using the email address justine*@mumsnet.com, then it would show to any attacker ju******@mu.** if they tried to recover it in order to dox the owner.

The use of this feature in order to dox people most likely constitutes an offence under the Computer Misuse Act s1 as the use of this feature to dox people is clearly not authorised by Twitter, and I would encourage those affected to report the people involved to the police.

Hence I am not repeating the criminally obtained dox of the person, and I would encourage people NOT the repeat the name in this thread.

Note that this doxing follows quite soon from Aimee Challenor boasting of outing Miranda Yardley's Twitter account using the same means.

Whether there are more serious offences committed is hard to say, as the doxing itself is obviously a preparatory act to having people fired, harassed, threatened, family & children harassed, and so on, but the doing so is not necessarily planned by the original doxer so it would be hard to prove a more serious offence.

I would advise those who are on Twitter and are not using their real name to create a gmail/yahoo/other anonymous webmail account, matching the twitter username (so if you are @ARealRadFem on Twitter, make a yahoo mail account [email protected]). In terms of the phone verification that's a little trickier as the 1/100 last two digits is VERY outing if they have a suspicion who you are, but otherwise completely useless. I have had some luck in the past with adding an extra digit (so if you are 07812 456789, you can add an extra digit on like this 07812 4567890, and verification phone calls still work), but YMMV on that.

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OrangeStudent · 26/10/2018 15:31

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QuietContraryMary · 26/10/2018 15:32

"which if you read user agreements clear set out that the information will be made available."

Are you a student at Oxford? Their standards don't seem very high if so.

The agreements simply don't say that at all, and in any case it's not relevant whether an agreement between a person & Twitter provides that they might not keep your email address 100% anonymous from doxing TRAs, as to whether the act of that doxing is legal.

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peepholepringle · 26/10/2018 15:33

Moron is a disgusting term

QuietContraryMary · 26/10/2018 15:35

"Ditto this situation - HenryWimbush's legal beef is with twitter, not the people who did the doxxing."

Well no, because digital systems have a completely different set of laws, so analogies to physical paper aren't useful in the slightest.

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R0wantrees · 26/10/2018 15:35

Free speech includes the social consequences for your actions, individuals are entitled to argue against you and society is entitled to give you consequences for your actions. You aren't entitled to keep your job as an Oxford Professor if you hold views which are fundamentally contrary and incompatable with the values of the University.

I think Oxford University's consideration of free speech & fundamental values may prove to be different to the one you seem to anticipate.

AugustL · 26/10/2018 15:36

Skimmed the article, don't see what he did that was so wrong. Anything happens to him just proves him right about their fascist nature.

FermatsTheorem · 26/10/2018 15:37

Are you a student at Oxford? Their standards don't seem very high if so.

Back when I was a student, many years ago, our student newspaper "Nowheresville Student" was universally known as "Nowheresville Stupid" because the standards of journalism were so woefully low. I don't think it's an unusual state of affairs in student newspapers.

However, in this instance, I think they're simply doing old fashioned muck-raking dumpster diving, albeit in a new, high-tech way, then trying to spin the results as "Don who openly holds GC views has anon twitter account in which he, shock horror, also holds GC views."

It ain't gonna win a Pulitzer, that's for sure.

StarsAndWater · 26/10/2018 15:37

Free speech includes the social consequences for your actions, individuals are entitled to argue against you and society is entitled to give you consequences for your actions. You aren't entitled to keep your job as an Oxford Professor if you hold views which are fundamentally contrary and incompatable with the values of the University.

There's a big difference between free speech and insisting on the right to dox.
Since you're so keen on people being accountable under their names, why are you using a pseudonym on here?
I'm guessing one rule for you and another for the people you don't agree with.

R0wantrees · 26/10/2018 15:37

There's a familiarity of tone and style of expression.

peepholepringle · 26/10/2018 15:38

I agree @R0wantrees

FermatsTheorem · 26/10/2018 15:39

I think Oxford University's consideration of free speech & fundamental values may prove to be different to the one you seem to anticipate.

Yes, this as well!

LemonJello · 26/10/2018 15:40

If you are needing to use burner phones to protect your identity from the things you are saying, perhaps you need to reevaluate your views and conduct on twitter.

So why not use your real name on here Orange, hmm?

User10fuckingmillion · 26/10/2018 15:41

I'm so confused

LangCleg · 26/10/2018 15:41

Welcome to Mumsnet, OrangeStudent!

OrangeStudent · 26/10/2018 15:43

I'm not just going to post my personal information on here, but if someone worked out who I was I would have absolutely no issue what so ever with it. I say very similar things elsewhere under my own name.

nauticant · 26/10/2018 15:44

I take a more holistic view of all of this. TRAs believe that once we're at the point where everyone feels that they cannot criticise the gender identity ideology because of fear of the consequences, then victory will be achieved. I'd say that long before that happens there'll be a very strong backlash that won't just be coming from the gender critical community but will also be coming from the public at large.

Many of the "victories" that give the gender identity ideology a higher profile in the mind of the general public will prove to be defeats.

QuietContraryMary · 26/10/2018 15:44

I see a few issues here:

(a) the list of crimes of the accused Prof is pisspoor

'The account’s bio states: “AMAB transmasculine non-binary demiboy. Polyam aro/ace. 2 + 2 = 4”. This appears to be mocking certain labels of the LGBTQ+ community: “polyam[orous]” – “the practice of engaging in multiple sexual relationships” – and “aro/ace” – short for aromantic, meaning “having no interest in or desire for romantic relationships” alongside asexual, meaning “without sexual feelings or associations” – are clearly intended to sound self-contradictory. “2 + 2 = 4” also appears to be a reference to George Orwell’s 1984.'

(b) The way that the doxing appears to have been performed, apparently solely by use of the 'password recovery function' to identify the user as an Oxford sociology employee. I think on some level, if you say were posting as MrHenryWimbush on one site, and then on another with the same handle, and outed yourself that way, well tough shit really. But using a security function to out people is clearly not justifiable.

(c) Orangestudent's victim-blaming "Its his fault for being a moron and using his university email account."

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LemonJello · 26/10/2018 15:45

I'm not just going to post my personal information on here

Why ever not?

LemonJello · 26/10/2018 15:47

Plenty of people do. Why not you?

OrangeStudent · 26/10/2018 15:48

The agreements simply don't say that at all, and in any case it's not relevant whether an agreement between a person & Twitter provides that they might not keep your email address 100% anonymous from doxing TRAs, as to whether the act of that doxing is legal.

The CMA would just simply not be applied in this case, there is a reason why people like Aimee Challenor have not been prosecuted for doing similar things. Go to the police if you really want to try it.

But just ranting on here about them having broken the law is just absurd and a waste of time. Criticise them for exposing him, but don't just go down an absurd tangent because it makes you feel morally superior that you think you have got 'em.

Incidentally. FermatsTheorem your physical analogy isn't really relevant or applicable, the law are totally different. The point however is, that using the password recovery service to do what they did would not come under accesssing unauthorised data.

QuietContraryMary · 26/10/2018 15:48

In terms of (b) and (c) above, if he was accused of a criminal offence, you could say well the ends justify the means in terms of doxing them.

But in this case the offence seems to be 'posting on the internet using an anonymous handle', which is something we are ALL doing currently, and not exactly a crime.

Perhaps our Orange friend could point to any specific Tweet which justifies unmasking this person?

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R0wantrees · 26/10/2018 15:49

"I have entered this debate not because I am a feminist but because freedom of speech is one of the highest values of a democratic society, and the basic foundation of university life.
Transgender activism poses a grave threat to freedom of speech. I think of the young MPhil student who had to disguise herself to attend this meeting because she feared the reaction of fellow students. This is the generation that we have educated."

This prescient statement by Professor Biggs was written in May 2018. You might consider it further OrangeStudent

Also in context, May 3rd 2018:
Sam Gyimah, the universities minister, will announce tough guidance on the issue at a meeting today, calling attempts to silence debate “chilling”.

He will accuse some student societies of “institutional hostility” to certain unfashionable but perfectly lawful views. A “murky” legal landscape, with guidance from various regulators, lets zealots censor those with whom they disagree, Mr Gyimah will say."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sam-gyimah-crackdown-on-students-silencing-free-speech-x28jx85fc

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3239267-Free-Speech-No-Platforming-at-Universities

LangCleg · 26/10/2018 15:49

Do we think the University of Oxford is up for a Year Zero?!

FermatsTheorem · 26/10/2018 15:50

That's true nauticant.

My personal approach to the threat of doxxing is to make a few cautiously GC comments on national newspapers under my real name, so if someone were to approach my employer, I'd say "well here I am saying it out in the real world and freedom of belief is a right under international human rights laws."

I realise however that not everyone has that option (especially if they're in the "caring" professions.)

I don't say anything on here about any matter which I wouldn't say to someone's face - my anonymity is largely down to having friends who hold different political opinions (on a whole range of things), and typically I value their friendship over bludgeoning them with my political views. So although I could say it to their faces (and probably do so sufficiently diplomatically that all would be well) I typically choose not to.

OrangeStudent · 26/10/2018 15:50

Why ever not?

Because its a total distraction and not relevant to the points at hand, which is why I came here. People have actually worked out who I am before when I have jumped down this rabbit hole, but this is just a ridiculous tangent.