Travez Perry - violent attack at high school

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This video is really shocking. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6317165/Transgender-girl-charged-brutal-high-school-attack-caught-camera-says-bullied.html

Obviously it goes without saying that bullying is wrong, and should have been dealt with by the school. But this person kicking and stomping on people who are lying on the ground, resulting in their hospitalisation? That goes far beyond a response to bullying.

A commenter on GC Reddit whose daughter attends the school in question reports that the girl who was beaten has either a broken jaw or fractured skull.

He would have killed her if he hadn't been stopped, he was totally out of control. I'm sorry but I call utter bullshit on the "bullying"as well. We all know these men/boys don't like to be thwarted. Sounds more like the girl said something he didn't like and he attacked her. Someone who is built like that is simply not going to be bullied consistently by smaller girls/women, they'd be too scared.

There might have been bullying by one or both of the victims in the form of comments on social media. But it doesn't matter. Any bullying is one thing, the very violent assaults are another. Although I suspect they'll end up being entangled and will influence what happens in court.

But that's just supposition by me. Let's see what happens.

s but not on male violence (that is not transgender) in the UK?

We’ve started umpteen of those threads. Strangely enough, when we do, MRA types appear and tell us why we are wrong to do so.

It’s almost like Male violence against women is normalised...

How are we wrong discussing this again?

Nobody knows what Millie has gone through, and this could have just been a final straw for her.

What exactly is enough and justifies kicking a woman in the head almost killing her? Just so we’re clear on exactly how many words it takes for a woman to deserve her head kicking in?

It may be unfashionable, but I believe the words of my mother “sticks and stones may break your bones but words can never hurt you” whilst being at one level untrue, at the same time helped me to develop strength to ignore the bullies. Physically I was weaker, mentally I could be stronger.

When I was bullied for a long term at school it would have never entered my head that jumping on the bully’s head was a good solution. No excuse for that attack and I hope he is punished in the courts for his violence

chron.com/neighborhood/tomball/news/article/Transgender-teen-says-she-was-bullied-before-13335970.php

" Perry, who is transgender, told police that the female victim had taken her picture and posted it on Snapchat with a negative comment, according to a Tomball police report."

My son had someone take a picture of him with a negative comment on Snapchat, but he didn't beat the culprit to a bloody pulp.

"According to court records, the female victim sustained a possible broken nose. "

That's insane. Thats a man attacking, not a woman. Ive never seen any man attack anyone that violently and I've seen some terrible pub fights. He should go to prison for a very long time.

Perry, who is biologically male, tried to kill his female victim and deserves to be locked up for for attempted murder.

I have autism and was bullied at school. It never would have occurred to me to be violent toward my tormentors. But, then again, I am not male.

Absolutely shocking. Not only the brutal, horrific attack but the fact that people are making excuses.

I hope the book gets thrown at him.

I cannot believe anyone could watch that clip and still have the nerve to make excuses for that vile imitation of a human being.

It’s a bloody great bloke beating up a girl. You have to be stupid to see anything else.

I think this is the first news story where I have felt conflicted. Of course nothing excuses violence, but bullying destroys people. It turns them into someone completely different. I saw it with my own brother. He endured years of relentless bullying and became a violent monster himself. He turned it onto me and beat the shit out of me on a regular basis at home.

I am terrified of my own dc being bullied, absolutely terrified as I know what it can do. I agree that it is no excuse whatsoever for such levels of violence, but without knowing the ins and outs of the story, I find it hard to take a side and fully sympathise with the victims in this scenario. It's just not black and white to me.

I have never been able to fully forgive my brother for what he did to me, even knowing the reasons. So I don't remove the blame completely from him, but I can see how it happened.

Like I said, this is the first case where i have felt conflicted. Perhaps that means that this individual is very clever and knows how to garner sympathy, or perhaps it is my own issues and fears interfering with my decision making abilities, but I'm struggling with this one.

I find it hard to take a side and fully sympathise with the victims in this scenario.

There is only one victim in this scenario - the girl who had the daylights kicked out of her.

Perry's attack on the girl was not a schoolyard spat - it was attempted murder by a strongly-built male on a weaker female.

@DisrespectfulAdultFemale - I actually meant the two people who were attacked by the transgender individual when I said victims.

Stormwhale, it’s your female socialisation, making you find excuses for your brother. He beat the shit out of you, because you were weaker than him. Nothing that has happened in his life excuses that. Consider the number of abused women, compared to the number of violent women. Violent men are violent because they’re very good at making excuses for their behaviour and projecting the blame elsewhere. Do you beat the shit out of people weaker than you? After all, if his past can be used as an excuse, why can’t yours? I’m sorry you were abused by your brother. 💐

It never would have occurred to me to be violent toward my tormentors.

This - it just is so completely outside of anything that would come up as an idea to deal with anything.

I've never been in a fight, but repeatedly kicking someone in the head wouldn't occur to me either - unless I was trying to kill them - that's not self-defense, or even revenge. If it was either of those you'd hit a couple of times and then stop - you wouldn't repeatedly go for an area that will kill someone.

I find it hard to take a side and fully sympathise with the victims in this scenario.

How many words does it take before it’s OK to kick a woman’s head in then?

Channeling the much missed TheBewilderness here:

THE RULES OF MISOGYNY

1st rule of misogyny: Women are responsible for what men do

2nd rule of misogyny: Women saying no to men is a hate crime.

3rd rule of misogyny: Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.

4th rule of misogyny: Women's opinions are violence against men thus male violence against women is justified

5th rule of misogyny: WATM! [What about the Men] Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.

6th rule of misogyny: Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breast feeding babies deserve punishment.

7th rule of misogyny: Women should always be grateful to men for everything.

8th rule of misogyny: Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are

9th rule of misogyny: Men always know the "real reasons" for everything women do and say

10th rule of misogyny: The worst thing about male violence is that it males men look bad

11th rule of misogyny: Basic pattern recognition skills are cruel and evil when they hurt men's feelings.

12th rule of misogyny: whatever women suffer from, men suffer from more.

Bold are my own choices, but could probably include a few more in this particular case too.

If the victim really bullied Travez that will be presented as part of the defence, surely. There needs to be some evidence of bullying, and evidence that Travez tried to deal with it through the accepted routes.
This reminds me of a recent thread on AIBU, where some people thought that physical violence was an acceptable response to unacceptable language (racism in that situation). I disagree. No one has the right to physically assault another person, unless it's self defence or immediate threat of physical danger.That's something I learnt in the '90s, from an American chat show no less, and it's something I taught my children. We seem to be going backwards again.

Nothing says female like stomping on somebody's face.

Is anyone left wondering what this guy is going to do when he gets out into the real world if he thinks a picture and a comment he doesn't like means he thinks it acceptable to kick a girls head in.

He gets fired = Must be because he is trans= Kill the boss?

He gets a parking ticket = Must be because he is trans = Kill the traffic warden?

If a few words send him into this sort of rage.

There was a case in the US recently where a trans employee stabbed a coworker for using the wrong pronouns. Poor darling was just tired of being referred to as he and so had to stab h* to make h* point.

Of course, the defence was that the culprit was vulnerable and deserving of pity so the (female) victim deserved it to teach her a lesson.