Travez Perry - violent attack at high school

[FeminaSum]

This video is really shocking. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6317165/Transgender-girl-charged-brutal-high-school-attack-caught-camera-says-bullied.html

Obviously it goes without saying that bullying is wrong, and should have been dealt with by the school. But this person kicking and stomping on people who are lying on the ground, resulting in their hospitalisation? That goes far beyond a response to bullying.

A commenter on GC Reddit whose daughter attends the school in question reports that the girl who was beaten has either a broken jaw or fractured skull.

I’ve been bullied - sustained and vicious verbal bullying. I never hit my bullies but I dreamt about it every day.

Yes, so have I. And also a victim of emotionally and physically abusive DV. Which is probably not coincidental. In no universe would stomping on someone's fucking head be in any way understandable.

The bullying incident mentioned in the article was that the girl involved posted a photo of Perry on social media and made a negative comment. Now, this comment could have been something very nasty (which still would in no way come anywhere close to justifying the response) or it could have been 'this person is not female and I don't want them in the girls' changing room.' Because according to TRAs, that is bullying.

I'm fairly sure that '...says she was bullied' wasn't in the headline of this piece last night abc13.com/transgender-student-charged-in-brutal-attack-at-tomball-high/4549561/ but has been added in since. The Daily Mail piece also quotes people arguing that this was a normal and understandable response to bullying and that Perry needs 'help and support.' What about Perry's victims, who ended up in hospital?

Feminist4 are you saying that I invented this incident to spread an anti-trans message?

Brave and stunning my arse.
Exploitative and abusive.
All you handmaidens understanding his point of view why not share some of that empathy for the young girl lying in hospital because she’s not even safe at school.
When you find out what a nasty piece of work he is you won’t be coming back here to own it will you?
I don’t have to wait for confirmation, it’s very clear to me that HE IS THE ABUSER.

People on Penis New seem to be revelling in this.
No bullying could justify this level of violence. It's scary as hell.

^^disgusting

How much people seem to enjoy a female having her head caved in. All the more when they can justify it and enjoy talking about it publicly.

Perspicacia I know it doesn't. I've reported my post for deletion. It was going to be a significantly longer post, where context of skin colour was relevant (in terms of trans prevalence in the US/death rates and the narrative of victimhood perpetuated by TRAs) but I got frustrated and deleted it. I realise how it looks without any context and that was absolutely not my intention.

Horrendous.

I don't think anyone is raising bullies to hero status. We are mums, we know the consequences of bullying, either we've experienced it ourselves or had to deal with our own kids being a victim of it. A rare few probably haven't had direct experience but they sure as hell have offered support to another mother whose child was suffering.

On what planet is this considered a reasonable to bullying. It reminded me of that curb stomp in American History X.

There are women on these boards infiltrating Mumsnet to spread a horrid anti-trans message.

Err no - the anti-trans message is coming from this trans person who tried to kill a girl. It's on film, there's no getting away from what happened here.

*reasonable response. Wine O'clock. 18:55pm.

You spread the horrid Daily Mail view of the world.

Yes, it is horrid. I completely understand why some people have chosen not to watch the video.

I'm also not going to disregard video evidence of an appalling assault because it's reported in the Daily Mail.

An update from a US news site here: abc13.com/some-defending-tomball-hs-student-charged-in-fight/4554634/ - interesting to compare the headline with the fact that the only defending of Perry detailed in the article is by Perry's attorney.

How come there is a thread started on a trans woman who retaliated violently after being bullied in the USA started by anti trans campaigners but not on male violence (that is not transgender) in the UK? I can answer that one. Because there is a desire to persecute the trans community on this website by a small group of women.

Why are you posting feministif you already know the answers to your own questions?

femina*my sympathy lies squarely with the young girl and young man who was knocked out prior to the girls vicious assault.
Most people charged with a crime will always try to defend their position with justification. I’m quite confident that the abuser will be unmasked as a predatory individual whose problems do not justify the abuse of others.
Shame on everyone who does not immediately spare their empathy for the real victims.

After years of bullying I finally did beat up one of my bullies. I was so out of it that I also reacted with extreme violence. The only difference was that I didn't have as much physical strength and therefore the damage I did was limited. And a teacher intervened.

I can’t think why women don’t want to share spaces with trans identifying males. It’s not as if they retain Male patterned violence.

Have you actually watched the video feminist4? Because what I saw was a powerfully built male violently attacking two other teenagers. With that level of aggression he could have killed them, would you still be supporting him if that had happened? Like others on this thread I have been bullied for being different. It's hurtful and upsetting but you can't react with violence, society has rules for a reason.

And let’s remember folks - the narrative put out by the defense is that the victim was a bully- we shouldn’t be so quick to believe that - it hasn’t been proven.
Why are some automatically believing the male and blaming the female?

Can't watch it.

That video is sickening. The poor girl being beaten, he is huge! Just look at his neck in the mugshot.

I'll bet my last pound that the "bullying" involved her stating that girls don't have penises and refusing to share a locker room.

Why do trans women who think they are women resort to being masculine with their responses to any form of disagreement?

That’s horrific. I got into my share of dust ups at school and they weren’t like that, in fact I think the girls had stopped fighting in my school by the age of about 14.

What is it about these brave and stunning women and stamping and kicking people in the head when they’re on the ground? Very ladylike. I’ve seen actual women do that a total of 0 times in my nearly 37 years of life.

This is what is happening now - TWAW and if you don’t believe it or support it giving up your space then you’ll get your head kicked it violently.
That’s what you get for not being nice.
You were asking for it really.

Because they are men. You can't change sex.

I absolutely abhor violence. But as someone said above - we don’t know what the background is to this situation? In saying that, it doesn’t mean I’m taking any ‘sides’ or saying that anyone ‘deserves’ to be attacked like that.

However, we should also make sure we don’t fall into the trap of restateing the cliche that ‘all men are attackers and all women are victims” - there are bad people in all groups, including girls! www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11343706/The-terrifying-rise-of-the-all-girl-gang.html

Oh, F4, you are amusing. Are you trying to play MN bingo by seeing how many of the Rules of Misogyny you can get into one post?