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Travez Perry - violent attack at high school

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FeminaSum · 25/10/2018 22:50

This video is really shocking. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6317165/Transgender-girl-charged-brutal-high-school-attack-caught-camera-says-bullied.html

Obviously it goes without saying that bullying is wrong, and should have been dealt with by the school. But this person kicking and stomping on people who are lying on the ground, resulting in their hospitalisation? That goes far beyond a response to bullying.

A commenter on GC Reddit whose daughter attends the school in question reports that the girl who was beaten has either a broken jaw or fractured skull.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 26/10/2018 11:28

In how many other situations would you watch a video of a man violently beating up a woman and say 'but we don’t know what the background is to this situation'?

I cannot believe the misogyny of some posters on this thread.
Unless it turns out that the victim actually had a gun and had just been threatening the stomper with it, it makes no difference what the 'background' was and all the posts about bullying sound like nothing more than people looking for any excuse to excuse a violent man.

LangCleg · 26/10/2018 11:34

If just one of those kicks had gone in at a particular angle or landed a millimetre or two from where it did, that girl could be dead.

This is male violence. End of.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 26/10/2018 12:12

All I saw was an individual who looked and acted male and had the strength of a male being extremely violent against a vulnerable woman. Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck ...

snowbear66 · 26/10/2018 12:14

Redhoodgirl
For the year ending March 2017, the majority of suspects convicted of homicide were male (76%).
I think it’s undeniable that most violence is from men.

Datun · 26/10/2018 12:18

I watched it eventually.

This sums it up for me

'Nobody knows what Millie has gone through, and this could have just been a final straw for her. That is all speculation of course because I don't personally know her or her family

YetAnotherSpartacus · 26/10/2018 12:20

? Datun? I'm not sure I get that?

nauticant · 26/10/2018 12:25

The comment is simply an example of people being motivated to excuse violence carried out by a man against a woman.

The instinct is to excuse. This means there's the need for a pretext. The trans identity provides that.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 26/10/2018 12:29

Nope - still don't get it.

FloralBunting · 26/10/2018 12:29

Yeah, a video of a male bodied person kicking seven bells out of a girl is very likely to make us fall into the trap of thinking male violence is a much, much more prolific problem than feral girl gangs.

FermatsTheorem · 26/10/2018 12:42

I presume what Datun's getting at is that we see comments like the one she's bolded every single time male-on-female violence is reported.

Domestic violence/family annihilation? "What sort of a nag was she that she drove him to such extreme actions?"

Rape? "What was she wearing?" "Did she say no forcefully enough?" "Well how was he supposed to know she didn't want it? She let him buy her a drink and 50 Shades is mostly bought by women, doncha know?" "She probably just regretted it the next morning..."

We see it every time. So much so that when we see, as in this video, incontravertible film footage of a male bodied individual stomping on a much smaller woman, there are people whose first reaction (without any evidence one way or the other) is to say "Well, obviously she was a bully and drove him to it."

YetAnotherSpartacus · 26/10/2018 12:46

Oh OK I get that.

In fact re this ... (Countess)

In how many other situations would you watch a video of a man violently beating up a woman and say 'but we don’t know what the background is to this situation'?

I actually thought - well most really. Because it's always women's fault.

Datun · 26/10/2018 13:51

Sorry. I should've been clearer. Yes they don't know the person involved, nor the family, they're just having a guess, but the implication is it's justified.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 26/10/2018 13:55

Stop trolling our boards feminist

My advice is to ignore the trolling. If you engage, you give the action attention.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 26/10/2018 13:56

Oh OK - I get it now. I wasn't sure if you were critical of the quote you posted or not initially! Or, at least I knew you were critical but could not quite join the dots...

Datun · 26/10/2018 14:01

YetAnotherSpartacus

Yes, I really don't know why I expected everyone to read my mind!

Datun · 26/10/2018 14:02

It's also depressing to read the comments. And how many people find that sort of reaction totally justified.

donajimena · 26/10/2018 14:12

I'm bored of you now feminist4 you post incessantly yet you don't answer questions posed to you.

DeRigueurMortis · 26/10/2018 14:20

That's a really shocking piece of footage.

I can't understand how anyone watching it can attempt to justify that level of agression.

Stomping on someone already on the ground, who is is no position to defend themselves clearly demonstrates a desire to cause serious injury by someone dangerously out of control.

If you didn't know anything about this case all you could conclude is that a powerfully built male seriously and viscously assaulted a young women by kicking her senseless in a frenzied attack.

The insight that the perps id's as trans and that the girl has said something on Social Media they didn't like, doesn't change the narrative above one iota.

loveyouradvice · 26/10/2018 14:31

F.... THAT IS VIOLENT.

Seriously, No excuse EVER.

Sarahjconnor · 26/10/2018 14:45

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DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 26/10/2018 15:05

I'm bored of you now feminist4 you post incessantly yet you don't answer questions posed to you.

The scroll button is your friend. Seriously. Remember the saying "Don't get in the mud with a pig. You'll only get dirty and the pig will enjoy it." If a poster annoys you, scroll by. Don't engage.

HomeStar · 26/10/2018 18:37

Nobody knows what Millie has gone through, and this could have just been a final straw for her. That is all speculation of course because I don't personally know her or her family'

I think the societal tendency to make excuses for male perpetrators is multiplied tenfold or a hundredfold when the perpetrator is a transwoman. And it's disgusting. I can't believe the mental gymnastics people will perform to excuse the inexcusable.

BiologyMatters · 26/10/2018 18:46

I wonder if certain people here so keen to believe every trans person is brave and stunning instead of a fucking thug in this case would be so keen to take their side if it was their daughter who had been violently attacked.

Materialist · 26/10/2018 18:59

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QuietContraryMary · 26/10/2018 19:04

It's not really clear that this person identifies as a transwoman.
Comments here from someone who posted 'I luv u' on Travez' FB:

"I have no voice T, sick in the bed. Angie just texted me... SMH. I watched the video. He's got his Momma's fight in him I tell you that!"

" Ikr...they calling him a tranny and she turning over.... He has been bullied at school for a min and people know and he lost it."

" I noticed that in their reference's to Tra. They should've known to leave him alone."

"Still sad though, didn't want him getting into criminal trouble."

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