Lily M standing as women's officer again

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Gather LM is saying that they had to give up the previous post because they left the area (to go to Goldsmiths) but they're now standing for the women's officer post in Lewisham Deptford CLP. Voting is on Sunday, apparently.

even I, as a biological woman, wouldn't feel I could be the best representative as a woman's officer as I don't have children

I think there is a bit of a misconception about the Women's Officer role. Women's officers are supposed to ensure that women are heard and represented within the CLP itself (so it isn't a boys club) and to make the CLP a welcoming place for women so that more join the party. Also to do some consciousness raising so that women members are more confident about activism.

labour.org.uk/members/my-membership/my-local-party/representing-labour/clp-womens-officer/

I have to say, I feel that Lily's totalitarian and exclusionary attitudes towards wrongthink in women make Lily entirely unsuitable for the role.

A role model?? Telling women to fuck off? That was the same LM wasn't it, who said that? Who hasn't got the maturity to congratulate the winner?

Fekko I think the same could be said of a lot of trans identifying people, the current silencing of dissent means they are surrounded by yes-people most of the time, and they’re all in for a shock when they step out of that affirming, validating bubble. And I would guess that a lot have poor mental health in one way or another which makes it even worse.

We watched The Life of Brian today. Dear God - Loretta!!!!

Yes, little women, get it in yer 'eds. Transwomen are more authentic and able to understand so much more than you lot.

They indeed have the full feminine experience. You are only here to make up the numbers because generals need footsoldiers.

So over this. Madigan hasn't even the grace to congratulate someone, it's all about what a 'shame' it is that Madigan has been 'disenfranchised' (oo, big word there, mate, don't think it means 'I didn't get elected because a vastly more qualified woman did instead')

Iily really doesn't get it? Wait until better pets come along and they are no longer exotic flavour du jour. Boo bloody hoo.

My jaw is still on the floor at those tweets by someone claiming LM would have represented women better than Gill, what with LM being an 'authentic woman' and all.

Somebody - anybody - wake me the fuck up from this 'through the looking glass nightmare', will you?

It looks as though the wheels are coming off Madigan's nascent political career.

Congratulations to Gill.

In amongst this, what I've found yet again fascinating is the words used by trans-activists.

Some of the Lewisham mob have used the term vile transphobic abuse that was apparently aimed at Lily and Lily's supporters.

Repeated, again and again.

But all I have seen, and I've been watching closely (including the stuff that's quickly hidden on the Lewisham Momentum page as being 'abusive', ie 'not fully behind Lily as a candidate), is women, and some men, calmly questioning why a biological male, recently moved to the local area, is the right choice to encourage local women to become more involved in Labour politics.

No 'vileness' unless:-

Vile abuse now seems to = women calmly questioning dogma.

Vile abuse now seems to = women calmly asking questions when they don't feel comfortable with a political point of view
Vile abuse = women calmly concerned that the 'transwoman' perspective is somehow more important than the 'woman' experience
Vile abuse now seems to = women speaking out of turn.

I've witnessed truly vile transphobic abuse on other areas of social media, usually doled out by males. These truly abusive, harmful words are usually ignored and rarely challenged by trans activists. (I'm being kind, to be honest, the threads I've seen with really properly awful transphobia from men are tumbleweed from the trans activists)

Strangely, those who are really being vile are not the audience that trans activisits choose to try to shame, hound, dox, force out of jobs, spaces, etc.

pombear

Correct.

I'm pleased by this result.

What it demonstrates is that experience and integrity matter in real world politics.

Role model? Authentic woman? I’m going to shop to buy wine!

I'm happy but still not impressed. 18 numpties voted for that numpty?

I see that Lily's position as 'Brockley Labour LGBT officer' has been removed from the biography part of her Twitter page and replaced with 'Gold[smiths] Labour women's officer'. I wonder why? Lack of space to include everything perhaps, but I'm surprised she chose to omit a recent political appointment rather than one of her other connections.

This whole discussion has made me think that even I, as a biological woman, wouldn't feel I could be the best representative as a woman's officer as I don't have children

Children don't make a woman more of a woman.

I do hope the women students at goldcis college do go to lil with all their womanly issues - every-single-bloody-one. Often. Frequently. See what gets done and see how often the answer is 'but it's much worse of trans women (Who Are Women by the way). Check your cis privilege girlfriend!'

So if LM had got this job, they would have had 3 political offices?
I don’t understand how one person can go for so many different positions. Isn’t it rather arrogant to assume you could do all those roles effectively?

So the crap underexperienced candidate lost

The End

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Best news
Authentic woman won

So the crap underexperienced candidate lost

RTB - I think that sums it up very neatly 👌

This tweet was briefly up. So the chair changed the agenda so those not standing for woman's officer couldn't read speeches as if they were?

Well that doesn't tally with the descriptions of the meeting here....

There was an ammendment to the agenda so delegates were voted for before the officer. Lily then decided not to run for officer because they lost the delegate vote. Not sure how they could give a speech when she’d decided not to run 🤷‍♀️

Sorry I'm obviously missing a part of the process here.

I'd be grateful if someone could explain the relevance of the delegate vote vs the officer vote.

TIA

I can just about make out some of the closing remarks of that speech, but they are choice indeed. The tunnel vision is strong in this one.