R4 World at One: Janice Turner and Helen Belcher

[MsBeaujangles]

Going to discuss whether there have been attempts to silence debate re the GRA

• [Titled edited by MNHQ at OP's request]

"Did Helen just interpret the q about silencing of women as being silencing of trans people?"

Yep.

Janice was very good. I switched off when Belcher came on.

So now trans people have "no right to reply"?

'Under attack without any right of reply'

Don't know whether to laugh or cry

HB peaking more people as we speak. Bloody hell.

"Did Helen just interpret the q about silencing of women as being silencing of trans people?"

Yep.

How very self-absorbed.

Belcher - a cursory 3 second inspection at birth 😂

My experience of the trans community 20 years ago (through my ex husband) was that they encouraged one another to claim they were going to commit suicide to have the doctors "take them seriously".
Reading other, more recent trans widows stories, I think this is still a common approach.

Keep Belcher on all day please

Is anyone going to be able to answer the points Belcher has made? No, seems not... 

Odfo.

She subscribes to assigned at birth.

While agreeing she respects women's only spaces.

And subscribes to identity.

She's very confused.

Belcher not challenged at all. Again.

Seriously? Surely nobody ever said that lesbians were not women........?

People bouncing up and down saying what women are!

Honestly, what a doughnut.

And enjoys the privilege of sharing women's loos!

... they're on to cricket now. Shame as there was a good deal to be refuted there!

Helen comes across better on the radio than on television. That point about 'I'm not keen on having men wandering around in the women's toilets' would have caused jaws to drop if listeners could have seen HB saying it.

Give Helen Belcher her own show!

This is what happens when proper debate is facilitated and the TRAs have to explain their ideas and thinking.

I can picture listeners throughout the country wondering what on earth she is talking about.

'Belcher - a cursory 3 second inspection at birth 😂'

FFS. Honestly. And the 'cursory 3 second inspection' defines everything about you for the rest of your life apparently It most certainly does not, but it DOES definite your biological sex, which is a FACT and DOES NOT CHANGE, but has SOD ALL to do with the rest of your identify. Sorry for shouting

The interviewer did well, given what we know about the BBCs line.

Amazingly random blibble blabble from Belcher there.
I specially liked the bit about how ridiculous it is to think you know who someone is from a 3 second inspection at birth.

Thanks oldcrone for the newsnight link.

"Study after study after study...". Lie after lie after lie and nobody gets to refute what HB is saying.

Well someone there was lying.
Respects women's spaces my arse.
Trans people being silenced, my even bigger arse.

My head hurts
Thanks Helen I'm sure you have just peaked a few more people