Crossdressers included in the definition of Transgender

[breastfeedingclownfish]

I wanted to discuss this, as it this definistion has been proposed by both Scottish Trans Alliance and LGBT Youth Scotland in their their submissions to the UK Women and Equalities commission.

The Scottish Trans Alliance submission says:

"We recommend the terms transgender people and trans people be used as equivalent inclusive umbrella terms for anyone whose gender identity (including their gender expression) does not fully correspond with the sex they were assigned at birth. This is inclusive of:

-Trans women – people assigned male at birth but who identity as women
-Trans men – people assigned female at birth but who identify as men
-Non-binary people – people who do not identify solely as men or solely as women. Instead their gender identity is between or beyond the man/woman binary or they have no gender. (This is an umbrella term inclusive of other terms such as gender-fluid, gender-queer, non-gendered, agender.)

• Cross-dressing people – people whose gender expression includes dressing in clothing which does not fully correspond with the sex they were assigned at birth but otherwise identify with their assigned sex.

data.parliament.uk/WrittenEvidence/CommitteeEvidence.svc/EvidenceDocument/Women%20and%20Equalities/Transgender%20Equality/written/19659.html

The LGBT Youth Scotland concurs with this definition.

Furthermore, James Morton of the Scottish Trans Alliance was the person responsible for changing the definition of 'woman' to include transwomen in Scottish Law. So legally, cross dressing males who "otherwise identify with their assigned sex" would be legally women in Scotland.

I am completely bewildered that cross dressing aspect has not been picked up by politicians/press.

I am particulary keen to hear from the woke crew. How the fuck can you defend this shit?

This artcile wsa posted on another thread.

It's worth reading. These 'progressive' fucks need to understand the risks of of what they are promoting. As Lang said " cross dressing is the most common paraphilia among sex offenders, regardless of identification"

www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/10653950/We-on-the-Left-lacked-the-courage-to-be-branded-homophobic-so-we-just-ignored-it.-I-wish-I-hadnt.html

fairplayforwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/153.full_.pdf

Stone wall include people who are Agender as in they don't have a gender identity - so that's feminists covered.

breastfeedingclownfish Like you I am incredulous that
James Morton and STA have had so much influence with the Scottish Goverment. I only just found this out because I wrote to all 8 of my MSPS in June and questioned the definition of woman in the gender rep bill especially the bit that said becoming female and implications for future legislation.
My constituency msp passed my letter on to Angela Constance who replied with the usual platitudes. Of the remaining 7 only three had the curtsey to reply, one
of whom just this week sent me a SPICe briefing document which attributed the 'new' definition of woman to James Morton. Its about time our politicians realised what this organisation are about. When I next meet with mine I will make sure they do. A committee of six people passed this ffs! !!

Honestly, with this and Brexit, I'm nearer to a heart attack than I've ever been.

Thanks for your work on this Theinconstantgardener. Can you post that SPICe briefing document please?

James Morton is being funded by the Scottish Government to lobby the Scottish Government into producing legislation to vandalise the meaning of the word 'woman' and consequently to remove sex based protections for women - adult human females.

James Morton is a biological female.

James Morton had a gender issue with being a woman and choose to present as a male. No problem with that.

James then proceeded to spent their career trying to destroy women' rights.

SunsetBeetch Don't shame my kinkshaming

And James is quite fucking blatant about it too. James want 'sex' removed as a protected characteristic and replaced with gender

Five years ago, Scotland was embroiled in a heated debate about the word “marriage” – with some people arguing that allowing same-sex marriages would destroy the meaning of the term marriage. A very similar debate is currently taking place in relation to the meaning of the word “woman”. In a misguided attempt to stop trans women being treated as women, a small number of people are trying to purge the overlapping definitions of sex and gender into a rigid claim that sex always equals chromosomes and gender is purely about oppressive stereotypes. This is simply not how Scottish, UK or European law regard the multifaceted concept of “sex”. Trans people exist and are lawfully able to use male or female facilities in accordance with their lived identity. Their inclusion is not dependent on the use of the term “gender"

www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/james-morton-trans-rights-trump-sex-vs-gender-battle-1-4778963

breastfeedingclownfish

Can you post that SPICE briefing document please
Errm I tried but when I open it from the email it doesn't have a link ,it is a Google doc. Sorry -such a numpty with this sort of thing. Must be my lady brain. Will have another go.

Look at this (event has ended, but click on the 'view details). This is what the money is being spent on.

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/equality-network-parliamentary-reception-registration-40869058454#

Sponsored by Patrick Harvie. Event for
Equality Network Parliamentary Reception
by Equality Network and Scottish Trans Alliance

You are invited to the Equality Network Parliamentary Reception to help us celebrate our 21st birthday, and find out more about our current Equal Recognition campaign for trans equality.

The reception is being sponsored by Patrick Harvie MSP (Scottish Green Party).

The event is being held in the Garden Lobby of the Scottish Parliament on Tuesday 27 February, 6pm to 8pm (registration opens from 5.30pm).

It should be an enjoyable evening, with wine and refreshments, photo opportunities, entertainment from Loud & Proud Choir, and of course, birthday cake!

Come along to help us raise awareness of the Equal Recognition campaign and to make the most of this opportunity to talk directly with MSPs and constituents about the case for change.

Oh and if anyone is still in any doubt about him and his ilke please read the 'we are still here'thread.

Theinconstantgardener
Can you copy and paste the link from the email. Just select the text with your mouse, then rightclick your mouse and select copy. Then come here, right click again and selct paste. Or use the ctrl key + C for copy and ctrl key + V for paste from the keyboard.

Ok I will try!

womansplaceuk.org/references-to-removal-of-single-sex-exemptions/

gendered intelligence screenshot is listed in the womansplace article

Submission to data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/women-and-equalities-committee/transgender-equality/written/19659.pdf

from Scottish Transgender Alliance, Equality Network to the transgender Equality Inquiry

Even part-time cross dressers are covered and they don't have to call themselves Trans. This is Stonewall's definition:

Essentially anyone who says they are a woman, and for whatever reason, can be one.

Safeguarding....

Gosh, I could probably be described as a masculine woman, therefore I'm transgender 🙄.

breastfeedingclownfish
I have pmed you.

Hang on a minute. So if Freddy likes to wear "ladies' clothing" and call himself Freda on a Saturday night, does that mean he is then a woman?

What happens if Frieda falls into a puddle and has to wear "men's clothing" instead - is Frieda then a man?

If Freddy goes into a changing room and comes out of it in women's clothing, has he changed sex in that moment? At what point? Who is he/she when naked?

I'm very confused.

Actually, Stonewall's transgender umbrella picture says that anyone is transgender if they challenge traditional gender roles - so I could become transgender if I simply refuse to do the washing up 😬.

I live on my own - sometimes I remember to put the bins out and sometimes I forget. What the fuck am I?

HollowTalk, you must be one of the ones that I've never heard of before.

This is so utterly ridiculous and regressive. I thought we were moving away from gender stereotypes, not towards enshrining them in law.

That Stonewall definition can be applied to basically any human being so is totally useless if you take it at face value.

It's probably the best way to understand what cognitive dissonance and gaslighting mean.

Its absolute lunacy