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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour party promoting Stonewall

87 replies

StuntNun · 17/10/2018 12:56

This tweet from the Labour Party is recommending people complete the GRA consultation following Stonewall's guidance. I'm astounded.

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MinecraftHolmes · 17/10/2018 20:34

I'm also still a member and I'm fucking furious. I'll be emailing my nominee (SNP area), who is famously a bit pro-Corbyn, with links to FPFW to see what her response is. I may well be resigning.

StuntNun · 17/10/2018 20:36

It gets worse. At the Pink News awards Jeremy Corbyn said, "Labour supports reform of the Gender Recognition Act and Equality Act to allow for self-declaration." So they want to reform the Equality Act as well!
Pink News article link

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CaptainKirkssparetupee · 17/10/2018 20:40

They've clearly made up there minds.

CaptainKirkssparetupee · 17/10/2018 20:40

They will have blood on their hands with this.

MinecraftHolmes · 17/10/2018 20:45

THE EQUALITY ACT!??!?!

GivenuponHumanity · 17/10/2018 20:49

It is time people who support left wing politics stormed their local Labour MP's to protest in disgust

Stigger · 17/10/2018 20:50

I’ve emailed today asking for them to cancel my membership

BrashCandicoot · 17/10/2018 20:59

I've just "reported a problem" on my Labour Login page.

"Hi there,
I just went to check my membership information and noticed that it asks a question about my "Gender Identity". I don't have a gender identity, so none of the answers are are appropriate (unless "None" comes under "other"). As gender identity is a belief based identity, should the options not be more like when organisations ask for information regarding religion, which often has "None" or "Atheist" as an option? I would happily choose the "female" box if being asked for information on my sex, which is observable biological fact.

Thanks!"

herecomesyourwoman · 17/10/2018 21:03

I'm a labour member, in a very very marginal constituency. Life long labour voter. I've been feeling more and more uneasy, but this has tipped the balance. Fuck them. I'm out. And I'll tip the balance away from them next election.

anotherGCacademic · 17/10/2018 21:03

Fucking hell Corbyn. The Equality Act?

ouda · 17/10/2018 21:21

Why are you surprised? Corbyn has been For the Many, Not the Jew for some time, now he's For the Men, Not the Women.

Labour currently = racist Brocialism. I left the party some time ago, in my case over Ken Livingstone. Not going back till Corbyn leaves. And then only if the party expels its Militant core.

anotherGCacademic · 17/10/2018 22:03

No Corbyn fan, but didn’t think he’d be so needlessly provocative.

TerfAndSerf · 17/10/2018 22:23

Why are you surprised? Corbyn has been For the Tranny, Not the Jew for some time

Fixed that for ya! Wink

StuntNun · 17/10/2018 22:26

It sounds like Corbyn supports Stonewall's aim to remove single-sex exemptions from the Equality Act entirely. It's right there on their website

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LangCleg · 17/10/2018 22:34

Good luck getting the industrial heartlands vote back, Jeremy.

Redkeyboard · 18/10/2018 00:02

For the menny not the Jew.

RilkeanHeart · 18/10/2018 01:18

When the absolute boy lets all the absolute girls down...

TimeLady · 18/10/2018 07:08

Corbyn has been taking the contrary view all his life. I'm not remotely surprised by this.

anotherGCacademic · 18/10/2018 09:16

I’m not surprised by his views but am wondering if this reflects Labour policy on the EA?

Redkeyboard · 18/10/2018 10:09

Corbyn has been taking the contrary view all his life. I'm not remotely surprised by this.

Except on Brexit, where a contrary view would have been helpful.

R0wantrees · 18/10/2018 10:12

Stephen Whittle (Press for Change) and very influential TRA on thread yesterday said:

In the end we will pull ourselves together and continue the campaigning – as we have always done. We know we have Labour behind this one, so will simply do our best to get them elected. As I tell the community “we have always lost more battles than we have won, but we only ever need to win the big one”.

I hope that clarifies matters.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3397010-Guardian-article-on-MPs-concern-with-GRA?msgid=81891984#81891984

GladAllOver · 18/10/2018 10:19

Stonewall used to be a vital organisation to support gay and lesbian rights..
But now they have lost their way. The GRA is none of their business.

R0wantrees · 19/10/2018 11:37

Petition to Stonewall:

"We call on Stonewall to:

Acknowledge that there are a range of valid viewpoints around sex, gender and transgender politics
Acknowledge specifically the conflict that exists between transgenderism and sex-based women’s rights
Commit to fostering an atmosphere of respectful debate, rather than demonising as transphobic those who wish to discuss or dissent from Stonewall’s current policies"

www.ipetitions.com/petition/dear-stonewall-please-reconsider-your-approach

the comments especially worth reading

PersonWithAVulva · 19/10/2018 14:44

I genuinely am politically homeless but leaning towards fucking Tory..as a disabled person I never thought i would say that but Labour seem determined to destroy womens rights. I would rather go through more one and a half years of waiting for my PIP tribunal (finally got a date now, middle of November, my PIP has been stopped since last June) than have my rights utterly destroyed.

I said a few months back it would be a cold day in hell before I voted Tory, but now it looks extremely likely that I will..so I guess hell is officially cold.

TwistedStitch · 19/10/2018 14:51

I'm the same PersonWithAVulva. Never voted Tory in my life but I'm awaiting a response from my Tory MP on this issue and if he's sympathetic he gets my vote.