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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Women's Hour Tomorrow!

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MsBeaujangles · 15/10/2018 10:28

The consultation is going to be discussed tomorrow on Women's Hour. They are asking for our views!

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Serfisafleur · 15/10/2018 20:49

I've replied, it ended up far longer than I intended but I started by listing the numerous attempts to silence feminists, the violence, threats, cancelled meetings, cancelled posters, etc then listed a few key transgender people who had directly affected women by exploiting self id and basically said my comment is enough is enough and we need to stand up for ourselves...

I'd be interested to hear what they produce.

Thanks for this thread!

Poppyred85 · 15/10/2018 21:15

I’ve emailed. I’m afraid I think it was rather waffle and not very precise but hopefully they get the idea. I did point out that perhaps if they wanted to know about how women who dare to challenge the TRA narrative even a little then perhaps they could ask Jenni Murray.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 15/10/2018 21:23

I've emailed, I thanked them for finally discussing it. And explained how the EA and the GRA are in conflict. I also mentioned however the BBC has been allowing untruths to fly unchallenged, eg Ruth Hunt and her "the law says TWAW" on PM.

Said about how predatory men will always take advantage of a way to access women, and this is no different.

I have pretty much zero hope that it will be in any way balanced or supportive of women.

NowtSalamander · 15/10/2018 21:38

I’ve emailed - I have no hope of the BBC anymore, but I told some personal anecdotes about how this affects me as a parent and as a teacher as I knew all the rest of you GC legends would be on the case with the objective facts. As the trans narratives they include try to be as personal and emotive as possible I’ll see how they respond to that as opposed to all the science and logic that they aren’t listening to.

WineGummyBear · 16/10/2018 06:55

Dear woman's hour

Pleased you are hosting this conversation.

I'd like to request that you clear up the use of the terms at the outset of the conversation. I believe that lack of clarity on the terminology has contributed to misunderstanding in this debate. The terms themselves are not uncontentious, but suggest you clarify from the get go how you will use the terms.

I suggest:

Sex- biological reality. Observed at birth.
Gender- social construct
Transgender person- a person who feels that their gender is at odds with their sex
Transexual- person who has undergone treatment (hormones/surgery)

borntobequiet · 16/10/2018 09:01

Have a long drive this morning so will be listening while on the road. Good thing it’s the A40 not a motorway because I might need to pull over and rant at the radio - though still hoping it will take account of GC views.

citykat · 16/10/2018 09:17

I emailed them. Please can someone post a summary in case I can't get the podcast. Can't listen live sadly. Thank you

RiverTam · 16/10/2018 09:26

Yes, I second that, if one of you lovely wims could so that for those of us who aren't able to listen live!

Budgieinaberet · 16/10/2018 09:51

Shall I do a summary now ?
We have had a lot of responses on this matter, but they are all from bigots
In line with our policies we are not going to broadcast any of these transphobic views
And we will be forwarding all their details to the Woke Police

I expect that might just about cover it Grin

speakingwoman · 16/10/2018 09:54

I have emailed.

PerverseConverse · 16/10/2018 09:55

Dr. Nic Williams is going to be on. I love her manner and think she's ace. She's so calm and reasoned in the face of insanity.

ImPreCis · 16/10/2018 09:57

Well just heard that today’s programme is all about ........
Adoption!

Do you think they are going to give 5 minutes to GRA and then they can tick the box.

Budgieinaberet · 16/10/2018 09:58

I thought Dr Nic was at the HOC today

Miladymilord · 16/10/2018 09:59

They've probably dropped it unitl they can work out how to ignore all the emails.

AnchorMum · 16/10/2018 10:01

Yes, they've probably been so inundated that they have no idea what to do with us uppity womens' opinions.

Mrspotter12 · 16/10/2018 10:02

It's on!

whyisthecakealwaysgone · 16/10/2018 10:03

Listening now

Tediousnamechange · 16/10/2018 10:03

Here we go.

Miladymilord · 16/10/2018 10:03

all the twitter comments are supportive - get on there!!

Tediousnamechange · 16/10/2018 10:03

Thankfully baby napping!

Budgieinaberet · 16/10/2018 10:03

She sounds nervous

Tediousnamechange · 16/10/2018 10:04

Who is this new bbc correspondent?

ImPreCis · 16/10/2018 10:04

It’s sounding promising so far! First item on.

Miladymilord · 16/10/2018 10:04

email again!!
email again!!

Budgieinaberet · 16/10/2018 10:04

No idea