Exhausted and depressed by the power and misogyny of TRAs

[ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen]

I can't understand how the TRA lobby has been able to hoodwink so many organisations so quickly and so forcefully.

It is madness to me: the emperor obviously has no clothes but almost everyone is pretending he has and everyone else is too scared to speak up and point out he hasn't even if they know it.

But I am exhausted by the mental energy it is taking to fight this, engage (especially in a calm and rational way so as not to scare people off) and generally keep pushing back.

My DH - while wholeheartedly agreeing with me - thinks it comes down to arguing with idiots on social media and I should take a step back but then I remember Karen White, Jess Bradley, Pips Bunce, and I realise this isn't an academic argument - it's real and it's impacting women in the real world - and I need to keep fighting.

I am trying to move my social media activism into real-world activism, first by peak-transing friends, but also by getting involved with protest, groups etc.

But I'm just so tired. And I can't see when/where this will end. It sort of all feels inevitable.

Just rambling... and wondering if anyone feels the same.

Totally agree with you. I just cannot understand how the TRA agenda has gained traction so quickly and completely.

I do and I found getting off most social media and engaging with real people helped a lot. See your MP. Talk to friends and family. Make sure you have some way on keeping up with consultations and things affecting women ( keep an eye out here ). But don’t get overwhelmed. What we see on social media doesn’t represent the general public very well at all.

TRAs are funded by government.

Government thinks women should bow to the Emperor.

Government wants everyone to lie.

Totalitarian Tory government.

I can't understand how the TRA lobby has been able to hoodwink so many organisations so quickly and so forcefully.

Because it's a top down movement led by the people with most power in society. Not that they like it when you notice this.

Everything is the opposite of reality in TRA land.

Definitely get off social media, especially twitter. Real life people are much more gender sensible.

I guess what I find most unnerving is that things have gone so far (courtesy incredibly efficient TRA lobbying) that the effects are obvious - from Karen White, to transwomen winning all sports competitions for women, from Jess Bradley’s flashing to the misogyny of a woman’s officer LM and an anti-safeguard campaigner Aimee Challenor, from women prevented from meeting to discuss their rights by party officials to transwomen beating up women... and yet, the establishment acts, like none of this could ever happen. While it is happening.

This is like right straight out of a Kafka novel. This feeling of powerlessness, no matter how ‚right‘ one is on the facts is very hard to swallow.

I am too.

Some days I feel like the truth is getting out there and people get it. And then I see woke people elsewhere - people who are meant to be on my side - tripping over themselves, happily smearing good people and calling them names to show how supportive and virtuous they are and completely ignoring what's actually happening. Just totally complacent. Fucking stupid.

Just makes me sick. BBC reporting on Glinner but in an "making an example of" kind of way. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

I go through ups and downs. There have been several big ups recently but suddenly the downs seem overwhelming.

But don't forget everything is intensifying because of the consultation. There are a lot of positives and we are on the side of common sense. Most people agree with us, it's just there are a lot of idiots in power who care more about appearing 'inclusive' than women's rights. We'll get there. Just take some time out for a bit if you need to.

The public are laughing at politicians and getting angry.

Mix the lies of TRA ideology with Bredit lies, the public are getting very angry at politicians.

Lang
Because it's a top down movement
Exactly this ^
Bunce, Hewitt, Fae, Whittle and many more have been giving out advice and changing policies without the general public being informed.

And, when I mention this to people irl, they seem slightly disbelieving and I must be mistaken.
I've been looking through a lot of policies lately and also at our local club.
Lo and behold, there it is - Gender identification, as if it is the most normal thing in the world.
And it was changed in 2014.
Top down and completely under the radar.

@DayMay "Totalitarian Tory government."

I don't think that's accurate at all when you consider Labour have a trans women's officer, have opened women's-only shortlists to TW and are parroting the TWAW line like everyone else. Greens were going the same way, WEP the same, and now the bloody Lib Dems. It's actually not a party-political issue at all.

I think I'm feeling particularly down about it today after having a convo this week with a male, gay, generally left-leaning but reasonable friend who agreed the debate had become toxic (but seemed to think "both sides" were equally culpable ) and there is a lot of misogyny among the male gay community (who are so pro-TRA) but just couldn't get what I was saying about women needing to define themselves.

E.g. He kept saying the way society sees sex (not gender) is essentialist - well, fucking duh, biology is essentialist; brought up intersex; and also went down the "TW get so much abuse" etc line which drives me nuts because I have looked at actual statistics for hate crimes and of the 5 categories trans was the lowest number.

He also kept arguing with me about what "woman" is if not biology - i.e. it's sexist woman-face to claim that basically wearing a dress makes you a woman. And also why is trans-species or trans-disabled or trans-racial ludicrous/offensive when saying you identify as the opposite sex isn't it.

It just make me feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall sometimes.

Yes, it's cross party. I gather the Greens abused powers with the police today.

I blame the government as they are in power now.

This is Brexit2, politicians telling lies again causing division.

Women are now finished in this country. I will go down fighting.

I just don't get why they've turned on us.

DH and I just talking about this, having both been pretty down all day.

It's perpetually like the weekend after Brexit, but without the distraction of Glastonbury on the telly, and more injustice. One of my daughters is very embracing of the transcult and it's a difficult thing to navigate around. I respect her right to her own opinion, but am SO FUCKING FRUSTRATED by her wilful suspension of critical thinking. She actually doesn't want to look at the facts beneath the facade, or the logical conclusion of this fashionable niche identity (as she naively sees it. She has edited men like Pips Bunce and Karen White out of her woke worldview.)

Sadly, all we can do is keep trying. Its like all totalitarian regimes where most people are nodding along until its too late.

Labour and the conservatives both want totalitarianism.

The Tory government want to bring it in using this lie, pushing it down.

Labour want to bring it in by a public uprising, pushing upwards.

The female MPs and women in leadership will be the first to be removed with the click of the finger.

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen

Did you ask your gay male friend if he defined homosexuality as ‘same sex’ attracted? That is the definition of course. If he is in agreement, and it would be very weird if he wasn’t, then would he date a transman? If not, he’s transphobic, if you follow the logical conclusions of what he is saying...

Ditto to all the posts saying things are different outside social media and some particularly 'woke' professions.
I've felt a bit better when I've spoken to people in real life (outside of work though -that's a minefield! ) although still stuns me how few people have heard about it.

Confessionsofteenagedramaqueen** I have a friend like that. Ask him what will happen to the little effeminate boys. Convinced they're girls, puberty blocked and their dicks chopped off. Most gay men seem to get that.

The result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth and truth be defamed as a lie, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world—and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end---is being destroyed.
Hannah Arent

This is why it is of use of political parties to support Trans Activism.

Once a state has made you lie, it can make you do anything against your will.

The BBC lies like hell about transactivism. It is totally in the grip of this pernicious ideology.

Psychological profiling was introduced as part of the BBC recruitment process a number of years back. I do wonder if using algorithms is as helpful as it's supposed to be. It's supposed to reduce discrimination in recruitment. But what if it also does something else, and creates a situation where those hired have another type of political blindness, associated with the psychology of how you see and process the world.

It could be as simple as looking for people with a positive and optimistic outlook who see the good in others and are very focused on the concept of team.

Cost cutting, back covering and laziness probably contribute too. Couple of meetings where an editor is told that the previous days' output raised five or six complaints - they just won't be bothered next time.

They mean that the enthusiastic TRA section of the BBC can get away with murder, because no one can be bothered to stop them, and the rest are too afraid. Plus the gig economy at the BBC. You want your next freelance shift, so you aren't going to take risks against militant misogynist.