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Greater Manchester Police Pride Network supports 'No T**** on our turf'
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HandsOffMyRights · 07/10/2018 18:43

Has this already been covered?

2 hrs ago this Tweet appeared in connection to the attached image

GMP Pride Network
@GMPPrideNetwork
We stand against any hatred and intolerance against the trans community #WeStandTogether #PoliceWithPride

Greater Manchester Police Pride Network supports 'No T**** on our turf'
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ToeToToe · 08/10/2018 21:07

I don't live in Manchester, but I'd have voted for Andy Burnham if I did. He seems a pretty decent chap.

I don't for a second believe he's go in for all this misogyny. Not if he thought about it properly for a minute or two.

This is misogyny - it's saying "women who don't agree with us on this political/ideological issue aren't welcome in Manchester." That's totalitarianism - and I don't think that's Andy Burnham's thing at all.

Is Andy Burnham going to refuse to provide policing or other services for Tory women, because he's labour? I think not.

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WanderinWomb · 08/10/2018 21:08

Mancunians actually voted against having an elected mayor and police commissioner.

Forced into it by Westminster. Andy Burnham was given Manchester wrapped in a bow. Burnham has been wearing smug-face ever since. Good luck getting a reply.

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BasilFaulty · 08/10/2018 21:35

Lawlsie1976

If only the police turned up as quickly if you report a real crime. Maybe they quite like policing hate crime as it's an easy collar for them and they're all on targets now aren't they?


Right can we all just take a moment to stand back and look at the bigger picture here. I'm a police officer and me and my team work night in night out to keep you safe. I'm sick of being tarred with this brush because some force 200 miles away has an association tied to that particular force that you didn't like.
Please don't buy into the anti police narrative and make up complete nonsense because it suits your agenda of police bashing. It's bad enough out there at the moment. Thank you.

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theOtherPamAyres · 08/10/2018 21:44

@Basil

Nice to see some back up Grin. I try not to take it personally and I have to bite my tongue. Other times, I walk away because it feels like abuse based on ignorance or a deliberate misreading of biased articles that use loaded terms.

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Turph · 08/10/2018 21:45

BasilFaulty
I know plenty of people in the job who complain they can't get anything done because of malingerers who aren't backfilled. Looks like sicknote gets a job doing the Twitter feed while you're stuck outside working...

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WanderinWomb · 08/10/2018 21:47

Please don't buy into the anti police narrative and make up complete nonsense because it suits your agenda of police bashing. It's bad enough out there at the moment. Thank you.


This isn't a personal attack Basil. It's not about you.

No one is making things up. Let's not accuse victims of lying please, not a good look!

People are genuinely concerned about police being used as a political tool. You too should be very concerned about being used by violent groups to harass and intimidate the public. It is an abuse of police powers.

Could you maybe give some practical advice about the best way to complain about this scandalous and possibly illegal behaviour ?? They are the ones who are bringing the service to disrepute not the women bringing it to public attention.

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PerverseConverse · 08/10/2018 21:49

I've written to Andy Burnham. I'll let you know if I get a reply.

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 08/10/2018 21:49

the police tweeting violent slurs is just not on Basil

it needs to be complained about

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BasilFaulty · 08/10/2018 21:49

My post was in direct response to
Lawlsie1976 where they said:

If only the police turned up as quickly if you report a real crime. Maybe they quite like policing hate crime as it's an easy collar for them and they're all on targets now aren't they?

It got my back up as I come here to get away from the police bashing Facebook comments and it just feels it's flooding into every arena.

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theOtherPamAyres · 08/10/2018 21:50

Here's an idea.

There is a Chief Officer who takes the national lead on LBGT policing matters. Her name is Julie Cooke and she is an Assistant Chief Constable in Merseyside.

May be worth meeting, in view of the fact that the LBGT diversity units in police forces are showing a big gap in their knowledge of LBGT politics, and the issues around Gender and Sex.

She's the top cop responsible for policy, and influences other Chief Officers

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 08/10/2018 21:51

Basil, I can assure you that I have a great deal of respect for the police (despite the fact that I've just started a thread about the spycops). It's why this sort of thing upsets me so much

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Needmoresleep · 08/10/2018 21:54

Basil, I am really pro police, as my dad was a senior met officer.

Which is why this casual and offensive tweet has me really riled. They are doing their colleagues a disservice. There is absolutely no need for this offensive and purile stuff.

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ToeToToe · 08/10/2018 22:00

That sort of tweeting is just begging criticism, though isn't it?

I'm surprised police officers aren't more pissed off about it, rather than berating those who are pissed off about it.

I am not anti-police. Not at all. But I would be a bit pissed off if I was in WYP, or lived in West Yorkshire, on finding out 2 police officers travelled across 5 counties, and stayed in a hotel overnight, in order to interview Posie Parker about a tweet. When something like 47% of all reported crime in WY are 'screened out' according to that crime researcher on Dispatches.

I know there's drastic funding cuts - but surely that makes it even harder to defend funds spent investigating posie, and manning twitter accounts like this.

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nauticant · 08/10/2018 22:00

Basil. It's not about you - yep.

People are genuinely concerned about police being used as a political tool - this has a long history.

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Doobigetta · 08/10/2018 22:05

I live in Manchester and have written to Andy Burnham. I don’t expect a reply. Burnham’s opinion on anything is whatever the person currently in front of him wants it to be.

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speakingwoman · 08/10/2018 22:07

Bump.this is awful

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WanderinWomb · 08/10/2018 22:20

Today 21:50 theOtherPamAyres
Here's an idea.
There is a Chief Officer who takes the national lead on LBGT policing matters. Her name is Julie Cooke and she is an Assistant Chief Constable in Merseyside.
May be worth meeting, in view of the fact that the LBGT diversity units in police forces are showing a big gap in their knowledge of LBGT politics, and the issues around Gender and Sex.


Thanks. Is this her?

www.merseyside.police.uk/about-us/chief-officer-group/assistant-chief-constable-julie-cooke/

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theOtherPamAyres · 08/10/2018 23:31

Is this her?

Yep, that's her. Here she is on Twitter, flying the rainbow flag:

twitter.com/accjuliecooke?lang=en

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RudeZebra · 08/10/2018 23:45

People are genuinely concerned about police being used as a political tool

And yet when Notts police decided to record misogyny as a hate crime (with no legal powers to do anything about it whatsoever, outside of existing criminal offences) it was lauded as a brilliant idea on this board. No complaints about dealing with tweets and hate crime then. No concerns about focus taken away from burglaries and assaults. Strange that.

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IfNotNowThenWhen1 · 09/10/2018 00:07

Not that strange. I think there's a teeny difference between saying "we would like to retain our rights as women and not be subjected ro more male violence " and " I'm going to find you and rape you in the eyeballs evil feminazi bitch whore".

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ShovingLeopard · 09/10/2018 00:15

But that would be balanced, then, wouldn't it. RudeZebra? If you are going to ignore burglaries and ride in hard on complaints about people saying rude stuff on twitter, you should do that for all 'hate', shouldn't you?

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PackingSoap · 09/10/2018 00:49

I spoke to someone I know who works in this field. He says this is a police misconduct issue and the first port of call should be to GMP's professional standards department (and should be framed as a concern that directly affects you personally as a female in terms of the remit of GMP). However, he also said that a note to Burnham wouldn't go amiss.

After looking into it, I think the really shocking thing is that a GMP twitter account retweeted the post from a person who, quite clearly, has a virulent and disturbing hatred of females, and speaks about lesbians in a most atrocious way. So this is not only a retweet from a sexist individual, but also a homophobic one.

There is no way that GMP can claim to adhere to the spirit of the EA and condone this kind of social media behaviour.

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 09/10/2018 11:43

Wanting to tackle violence against women is a polticial issue?

Wanting to encourage schoolgirls to report harrassment and abuse is a political issue?

I suppose from that perspective every crime is a political issue then?

I don't remember ANYONE suggesting that women who experienced misogyny online should repoirt it and it would be tackled, as part of the Notts initiative?

They wanted women and girls to report CRIMES that were happening in real life and were not being reported as women and girls didn't feel confident / didn't know they were illegal / were socialised to not make a fuss etc.

TFL ALSO had a recent campaign around encouraging women and girls to report sex crimes on public transport as well. Political? Well yes because the pressure comes from feminists to get this stuff reported more and better enforced.

Let's be clear this force said that terfs were not welcome > a terf is anyone who does not believe that a man becomes a woman, literally, on saying "I am a woman". And does not need to be expressed > I am a TERF all the time, although I have never done or said anything in public.

So the idea that
Enncourgaing women and girls to report sex offences committed against them in real life
Is the same as
The police telling women esp lesbians that they are not welcome in Manchester if they have the wrong THOUGHTS

Is totally fuckign ludicrous

And I worry about anyone who sees encouraging women and girls to report crime as a "political issue" ie those fucking feminists making a fuss they are NO FRIENDS of women and girls.

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 09/10/2018 11:45

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/tfl-campaign-urges-women-to-report-sexual-harassment_uk_58c6a62fe4b0ed71826df9ac

These cunts as well. This is the same as telling whole tranches of women that they are not welcome in a city because of how they THINK.
Jesus fucking christ.

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RedToothBrush · 09/10/2018 18:10

Andy Burnham is a figure head without any real direct power, just the title which contains a certain authority to chase people or influence government and local government.

Its amazing just what little power he actually has tbh.

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