Lily Madigan tweets

[TwistedStitch]

Not sure if this has already been posted. Lily Madigan, the women's officer, saying that a group of women they disagree with can go fuck themselves. Labour are a fucking joke.

My understanding of what’s recorded on your passport (from several long conversations with the Passport Agency recently as to why they wanted to know my “gender” on my application for a new passport, but were uninterested in my “sex”) is that if you tick “female” in the gender box on the application form for your passport, it translates into “Sex=F” on your passport.

So to me that means if you “identify” as female when filling in the form, your passport comes back with your sex as female.

The Passport agency said this was because the passport is primarily a document for confirming your identity, i.e. that you are the person you say you are.

Clear as mud.

I just get the feeling the Labour party are laughing at us.

We won't forget.

If my sex on my passport form does not match that on my birth certificate, which sex will be recorded on my passport? Or will the application be returned?

Surely they have to match, even if the countersignatory says that this photo is of X.

I think the Labour Party have forgotten that Women have the vote.

I think LM has missed a trick.
Period poverty . . . . . .

Pancake it will be the one you say you are

I am fairly sure I've seen a tweet by this person in the past stating that they don't have a GRC because it's too long and hard a process to bother with. Although if they'd done it instead of moaning about it they'd probably have one by now. (Wonder if I can stop reapplying for my car tax on the grounds it's just too much bother?) There really is no point trying to make linear, consistent sense from someone whose reality is created by their emotion in the moment. It's pathologically recognisable; the fact that they completely contradict what they said yesterday is irrelevant, because on both occasions when they spoke they meant what they felt. Feelings create reality, not facts. Look on the relationships board and Issendai's blog, the only thing you can do when someone like this is around is go NC as fast as possible to escape the batshit.

Whether someone with this particular difficulty should be allowed into a public post of responsibility where supposedly they are 'serving the public' is another question, and it's one that needs to be applied to a lot of public figures at the moment.

Wow, so yes that's complete nonsense. Good to know!

I am weirdly hoping that nothing irreversible has been done and there is no GRC.

For all the shouting I retain sympathy for some of these confused young people. I dont think there would be too much surprise if one day Lily came out as a gay, or straight, young man.

Full disclosure, my baby is right now being karyotyped because there is a higher-than-average chance that he could have abnormal sex chromosomes. That's XYY or XXY.

If he has one of those configurations, he will definitely still be a male. He was visibly male at his 12 week ultrasound! These chromosomal abnormalities are specific male conditions (ones I've been reading up a lot about for obvious reasons!). XXY men are often infertile, but when there is fertility help, guess what, it's to make their testes make sperm.

If you have an X and a Y, you've got an XY. Even if you've got something else besides.

Now, there is one syndrome - de la Chapelle syndrome - that gives you an XX and (because there's an unusual transposition of the SRY gene that's normally only on the Y chromosome over to one of the X's) male genitalia. So if LM had that, LM's sex chromosomes would be XX.

HOWEVER.

De la chapelle's Syndrome is marked by the complete absence of sperm (which require more of the Y chromosome than just the SRY gene to develop).

LM has been perfectly clear before in stating that LM could produce a baby that biologically belonged to LM. In fact, LM has said so repeatedly.

Fertility is only achievable in one of the three abnormal chromosome configurations that can result in a person with male phenotype. That chromosome configuration is XYY.

If LM is trying to use an extra Y chromosome as a reason to regard LM as female, that's a laugh riot.

LM has been perfectly clear before in stating that LM could produce a baby that biologically belonged to LM. In fact, LM has said so repeatedly.

I think that comes from a misguided belief in the imminence of womb transplants. Who would provide the womb & where it would go / hook up seem to be minor considerations.

Ok which one of you was it...

Lily locks down/changes their twitter profile frequently - perfectly sure there's a legitimate reason for the need for this so of course no suggestion from me at all that they're trying to cover their tracks ...

Even with a womb transplant, without sperm from the transwoman, there's no way to have a baby that is genetically the transwoman's.

I'm waiting for someone on twitter to point out she literally denying transmen's right to exist by considering period poverty a girl's issue

Budgieinaberret says
This might get me banned
But maybe Lil doesn't want to upset the girlfriend
Because maybe Lils girl friend ain't a lesbian
And Lil and Lils girl friend both want Lil to keep it's penis

This is an awful post and should certainly get you banned for life: a possessive pronoun does not have an apostrophe !!

Transtime = non-linear. Transbiology = non-binary.

I'm now waiting for transphysics!

Howard

Infant believe people have seen that they have beem lied to . That there is nothing they can't do. No rights they don't have.

And that instead of helping poor deprived trans people get paperwork and help with legalities that actually being tricked into opening some very sisnister doors

And conveniently the whole thing has been deleted....