Helen Webberley found guilty

[OldCrone]

Just seen on the BBC Wales news that Helen Webberley has been found guilty of providing an unregistered online medical clinic. She'll be sentenced next month.

He’s with the other dodgy doc

I'm sure someone on here will have screenshotted Nicky Campbell's retweet should he ever need reminding of BBC impartiality rules.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374512-trans-debate-bbc-5live-post-9am-today-mon-24th-sept?pg=1&order=

Statement on the Gender GP website:

gendergp.co.uk/update-health-inspectorate-wales-decision/

Further to the verdict in the case brought about by the Health Inspectorate Wales (HIW) regarding Dr Helen Webberley (05.10.18), GenderGP would like to keep our current and future patients updated with an overview of the situation, from Helen herself:

“In early 2017, Online GP Services Ltd (OLGPS), applied to HIW for ‘Dr Helen Webberley’s gender related services’ to be provided through an ‘independent medical clinic’. However the registration was not granted on the grounds that it did not match their criteria of what constitutes a ‘clinic’.

“Despite the HIW’s findings, people continued to ask for help and as such, myself and my husband, Dr Mike Webberley, continued to offer support in our capacity as GMC registered doctors. Working privately in this capacity is entirely in accordance with our capabilities and is akin to a doctor taking on such a role in their local private hospital. This is a wholly recognised and accepted approach in the UK.

“I am entirely convinced, and have had this corroborated by many patients using our services, that had we stopped supporting them during this period, it would have resulted in them coming to harm, which is why I sought an alternative route. Many of the people we have helped were self medicating through unregulated sources due to lengthy waiting lists on the NHS of up to four years. The service we provided ensured that the care they were receiving was genuine and any medication they were taking came from a legitimate source. Patient safety has been my priority throughout.

“Today’s verdict is hugely disappointing and hinges on the definition of what does or does not constitute a clinic in the eyes of the HIW. This has interfered with the provision of care by qualified experts to people who genuinely need help and support.

“In his capacity as gender specialist, Dr Mike Webberley will continue to provide patients with the highest standards of care and I will continue to fight for the rights of this marginalised group, while awaiting the verdict of the GMC investigation into my work supporting gender variant patients, which is ongoing.”

God complex. She needs to be struck off.

Hardtop is tweeting the Pope now.

Harrop is tweeting the Pope. Reporting feminists to the RC representation of God on earth now.

Lols he is. Hahaha

I hope they now look into WTF the other Dr Webberly has been doing with his prescribing pad

Maybe the Pope is leading prayers for us as a result and praying Harrop finds some other hobby.

This is what the Pope thinks of transgender ideology:

Where is the professional ethics here? What about proper informed consent?
Was it the child's consent or a parent’s consent that they were doing this prescribing under?
Will the GMC need to investigate both spouses or just Dr W?

Did she just chuck her husband under the bus?!

thread discussing Helen Webberley's interview on 5Live recently.

At the beginning of the show, she said defining 'biological sex' was 'tricky'
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374512-trans-debate-bbc-5live-post-9am-today-mon-24th-sept

I’m struggling to believe that the pope is on board with the suggestion that sometimes god fucks up and puts souls in the wrong bodies

May 2018
Interview with Helen Webberley in the Independent about the Channel 4 Genderquake debate:
(extract)

"I have been very open about my individualised approach to the treatment of transgender patients, irrespective of age, and my firm belief that they should be able to access the support and medication they need in a timely and supportive manner, and where possible via their GP. In line with self-identification of gender, I firmly advocate informed consent and individualised care.

This has attracted a certain amount of media interest. So I was not surprised to receive an invitation to appear on Genderquake, part of Channel 4’s series of programmes which are described as an opportunity “to encourage and to enlighten public discussion about sexuality and gender identity”.

My initial response was entirely positive. There is an overwhelming need for informed debate round the topic of society’s approach to transgender people and how we can better support this marginalised group. As a medical professional who has had firsthand experience of meeting and treating more members of the transgender community than most in my position, I was keen to add my voice to the mix.
This changed rather abruptly after I dug a little deeper. I spoke to a GP registrar and LGBTQ+ advocate (Dr Adrian Harrop) who had also been contacted by Channel 4, as well as a number of friends, fellow trans advocates and members of the trans community. The overwhelming opinion was that this had the potential to be yet another orchestrated engineered battle between trans people and those who essentially deny their very existence."

www.independent.co.uk/voices/trans-genderquake-debate-channel-4-germaine-greer-munroe-bergdorf-lgbt-rights-a8341776.html

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3243516-Dr-Helen-Webberley-GenderGP-Interview-in-The-Independent-re-GenderQuake-Debate

I’m delighted. She’s a fucking vulture

Caroline Tweeting

So today someone tried to dox me and failed by publishing details of my oven cleaner then later on Dr Harrop the harrumpher tried to intimidate me by tweeting the US bishops, CAFOD & the pope!

Their woeful attempts at silencing me are amusing but also deeply sinister.

Moving to Spain you say?
I've lived in Spain for 30 odd years.Have translated documents for dentists wanting to practise here,to get their colegiado(professional registration).Its a complicated affair to do it all legally,unless she's planning a "spare room" type set up.
I'll be keeping an eye on this strange person.

I’m struggling to believe that the pope is on board with the suggestion that sometimes god fucks up and puts souls in the wrong bodies

He's not - he's said gender ideology is demonic.

Pope Francis has not avoided describing gender ideology as “demonic,” nor expressing several times his concerns over the issue.
www.mondayvatican.com/vatican/pope-francis-and-the-issues-of-ideological-colonization

From May 2018 thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3249035-Stephen-Whittle-s-blog-on-Genderquake-with-a-detailed-briefing-for-panelists#77858433

(I posted)
"Additionally,
to recent blog by GenderGP (Dr Webberley) gendergp.co.uk/why-are-trans-teenagers-resorting-to-diy-trans-pills-from-cowboy-chemists/ link now broken
includes comment,

"The chatrooms and forums that discuss the medication regimes and monitoring are in many cases well-informed and correct. They offer experience and advice for those who are desperate. They offer information and treatment plans that people should be getting from their GP, but they’re not. The medical management of gender dysphoria is regarded as so specialist that it can only be provided for in a few NHS tertiary referral centres in the UK, yet the transgender community have done their own research and share it widely to those who are in need."

which is interesting in light of comments in Times article
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-teenagers-in-online-drug-danger-qbqhxp8ps

The Tavistock and Portman NHS foundation trust, the only NHS facility specialising in child gender identity, said they had a waiting time of 14 months for under-18s, and 14 to 15 months for adults. “There is all manner of different advice across the web and social media regarding self-medication, and we wouldn’t endorse any of it,” a spokesman said.

“We are concerned that potentially vulnerable young people could be misadvised by the discussions and resources online and act hastily.”

Advice from the charity Mermaids, which raises awareness about gender nonconformity in children and young people, suggests that while “the internet is the best resource out there” to learn more about trans people and find information, “don’t believe everything you read! There is lots of inaccurate information and people tend to have biased opinions, particularly on forums”.

A recent segment on R4 focussed on the waiting times for children and young people to access Tavistock, included interview with Dr Polly Carmichael. Discussed here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3229756-Transgender-child-on-R4-World-at-One

From GenderGP blog etc, there seems to be a push by some for GPs to be able to refer to prescribe 'bridging prescriptions' / refer to other 'specialist' clinics whilst waiting (in line with other protocols in primary care)

"The GMC has clear guidance for doctors to help their patients who have resorted to self-medication, so that they can prescribe bridging prescriptions to help keep their patients safe. In reality, though, many people who come to me for help and advice have found their doctor reluctant to offer help of this kind"

Dr Webberley outlined her approach in a recent article:
"I have been very open about my individualised approach to the treatment of transgender patients, irrespective of age, and my firm belief that they should be able to access the support and medication they need in a timely and supportive manner, and where possible via their GP. In line with self-identification of gender, I firmly advocate informed consent and individualised care"
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3243516-Dr-Helen-Webberley-GenderGP-Interview-in-The-Independent-re-GenderQuake-Debate

Recent threads re puberty blockers / hormones:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3228409-DM-Article-NHS-sex-change-drugs-are-putting-hundreds-of-children-at-risk-each-year-warns-top-doctor

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3227666-Puberty-blockers-Lupron "

that had we stopped supporting them during this period, it would have resulted in them coming to harm, which is why I sought an alternative route. Many of the people we have helped were self medicating through unregulated sources due to lengthy waiting lists on the NHS of up to four years. The service we provided ensured that the care they were receiving was genuine and any medication they were taking came from a legitimate source. Patient safety has been my priority throughout

So she's claiming they ( well husband as she's had to hang up her prescription pad) has been prescribing under a harm-minimisation approach. Without an evidence base that is just bullshit improvised medicine.

Sensing a mojo from your patients is NoT an evidence base.

Their patients need to be calling lawyers before the Webberlys do a moonlight flit.

Does the Mermaid Charity's website still have a link to Helen Webberley / Gender GP?

It used to.

Videos of the GenderGP Medical team:

gendergp.co.uk/about-us-medical-team/

Monmouth’s MP is David Davies, so far the only openly and active GC MP. I wonder if he was peak trans’d in his constituency.

He turned up at the Linda and Venice court hearing and seemed both nice and sincere.