National Autistic Society and Mermaids [Title edited by MNHQ]

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My friend just posted this on Facebook this morning. She isn't on MN so I have her permission to share. She would really like more people, especially people with ASD or who have children with ASD, to write to NAS thanking them for their willingness to listen and their agreement that Mermaids is not reputable.

This is really great news so please can we keep this bumped and shared. Thank you.

If posters on the SEN board would like to share that would also be great (if appropriate).

Dear XXXX ,

Thank you for your feedback regarding the Gender and autism page on our website.

I’m writing to let you know that I’ve raised your concerns regarding Mermaids UK, one of the organisations we link to on our Gender and autism page, with a number of teams within the National Autistic Society. In light of the concerns raised in your message, and of other feedback that we have received, we have decided to remove all links to Mermaids UK from our website, while we take the time to consult with relevant professionals and to reconsider which organisations we wish to place links to on our website.

As such, our Web Team are working to remove all links to Mermaids UK from our website as soon as possible. Please do be aware, however, that, as we are currently in the process of updating our website to reflect our new branding and organisational identity, it may take a few days for this to be actioned.

Thank you again for bringing this to our attention, and I hope that you are satisfied with the actions we are taking in light of the concerns that you have raised.

Kind regards,

National Autistic Society

[Edited by MNHQ to remove personal info]

The problem is that NAS has the temerity to think that maybe trans people aren’t the centre of fucking everything, as far as I can make out.

Spiritual you're coming across quite creepy now.

Autistic charity says it'll logically investigate a small group it's been linking to.

So you barge in moaning about transphobia and ordering everyone to embrace the trolls out there?

Spirituallove
Do you not understand how totalitariamism is the opposite of representation and acceptance?

The problem is that NAS has the temerity to think that maybe trans people aren’t the centre of fucking everything, as far as I can make out.

And there it is. An autism charity daring to put autistic people first instead of doing what everyone else appears to be doing and just accepting it as fact.

Pretty fucking stupid to expect autistic people not to do our research first really.

Why post about trans on an autistic thread?

To silence us

Sorry. To TRY and silence us.

Also Spirituallove you don't speak for me, none of the trans activists do.

Get it, your issued do not trump everyone else's, we do not need to bow to you. We think for our selves and we question!

It is creepy. Deeply deeply sinister. V unpleasant little agenda there.

They don't want autistic people looking into this.

Autistic people are well known to go into things deeply unlike neurotypicals.

Neuro linguistic programming doesn't work as well on the neurodiverse as it does the neurotypicals.

Autistic people are more likely than neurological people to be stickers for the truth.

The Emperor has no clothes on, the Emperor's got no clothes, look. Haha haha at those politicians hahaha hahaha.

Spirituallove I second the request for you to stop creeping into a post on autism and a charity used by the people on this thread, and telling us we are transphobic for supporting a charity we all depend on and it’s decision to re-look at where they refer vulnerable people. It’s called safeguarding.

You’re a dangerous intrusive ableist troll and you need to stop gaslighting the autistic people on this thread.

I can’t believe MN Police our words but allow someone to harass autistic people this way.

How dare you tell us to embrace something that doesn't embrace us!

The statement that TRAs are key to smashing the patriarchy is about the most depressing thing I’ve ever read.

They are men, using loopholes in legislation designed to protect people with gender dysphoria from abuse, in order to facilitate their agenda.

You think men are going to smash the patriarchy?

I don’t know whether to laugh or fucking weep.

I have reported and asked for the posts to be deleted and I hope HQ will act in defence of discussion participated in by and centred on a community far more vulnerable than any trans person.
If they don’t, well, we know what they are.

I have just emailed the NAS to say thank you for standing up to Mermaids.

No males, no lies.
There is no compromise.

might I ask, why you have/mention an issue with stonewall in a topic about a transgender group and a dislike?

I mentioned the appropriation of the term homophobia which is entirely inappropriate and indicative of the negative agenda.

I have also emailed MNHQ to ask that disablist TRAs are removed.

Then politicians wonder why women don't want to share things with this bullying mob!

Thank you.
Disablism on MN is sadly not new. Sinister suggestions that charities should be lent on to support certain agendas are, and this is not a development I welcome.

DayMay you’re so right. I love that about autism. My daughter is always told she’s rude, she isn’t. She’s actually incredibly sweet. She’s just honest and can’t lie. We sent her to a C of E school when she was younger, it was the closest and despite being atheist we thought she’d be ok because she had our influence. We never said anything too much about religions other than why we don’t believe, briefly. We listened as she came home telling us about God & Jesus, gently telling her that she should bear in mind that religion is belief and not facts, as she was so sure her teachers ‘wouldn’t lie’ about God, which is what she considered faith without facts to be, lies. So one day, maybe a year or so in, she came home and said... ‘ you know God? I don’t believe in him anymore’. I said, ‘ oh really, why not?’ DD ‘ well you dont’ and so I replied, ‘ yes but I’m interested in why you don’t’. So she told me about the creating everything in 7 days story and said... ‘ Mum, that’s obviously a lie. He couldn’t possibly do all that and look, humans made lots of the stuff themselves’. She was 6.

A similar thing happened with transgenderism... she was all into it ( being very obviously gender non conforming ) until... ‘ TWAW’ then she was like... but that’s not true, that’s a lie. Why are they all lying? She finds it hard as she doesn’t want to be mean to anyone. But she literally cannot pretend or lie. She’ll smile to make others feel better, or console them when they cry, but beyond that she can’t pretend. And she shouldn’t constantly be asked to.

My husband does lie or pretend sometimes, but that’s from years of conditioning and his time spent in a cult with his family. He thankfully got out of all that as a teenager.

ThefusilliJerry completely agree. It’s insiduous. More than that it’s fucking dangerous.

Insidious!

It actually beggars belief that these bullies have so few boundaries that they will turn their attentions to autistic people. You’d think at some point the sense of shame would kick in. But no.