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Tell me about LGBT Youth Scotland

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XXaghast · 26/09/2018 23:49

What is this organisation and why would a children's charity want to "achieve a charter mark" from them?

I found a costs page on their website, what are they charging this money for exactly? It seems like a lot.

www.lgbtyouth.org.uk/lgbt-charter/lgbt-charter/lgbt-charter-pricing/

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SuperLoudPoppingAction · 01/10/2018 11:34

But not one with up to date knowledge of Scottish terminology sadly.

The perspective of 'I'm far more knowledable and you're just nasty' works better when someone is actually knowledgeable.

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XXaghast · 01/10/2018 13:18

It isn't a very good disguise is it?

Here is a very logical discussion some parents are having about an agency affecting children and mid ponder is a sneer poster with some sneers. What is the aim?

I mean if there really is a knowledgeable representative about they could use this opportunity to set fears to rest and educate. Instead we have sneers, really rubbish juvenile sneers. Can't think of any better way to describe it, sneery fits so well.

This just leads me to the obvious conclusion that yes the thread has hit a nerve therefore there must be something to our concerns right?

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Jodie777 · 01/10/2018 19:46

What is Sacro?

Oh, why, thanks! I love Miss Marple

Salazaar · 01/10/2018 20:34

xx are you wanting to contact them for support for yourself or a LGBYT youth? If so you'd be better off arranging a meeting with one of the managers and discussing your concerns.

See, my experience of LGBYT Scotland, as a friend and partner of someone who attended is nothing but glowing reports of support for youngsters (up until age 25) to seek guidance, support, help and friendship with their peers.

There's a lot of training that goes into this. And a lot of peer-to-peer support. LGBYT Scotland has helped a lot of high school kids find guidance and support, psychological help, and have educated doctors and health professionals use the correct terminology and also assist them with the understanding their body dysphoria has and will affect them for the rest of their lives.

Bridgebuilder76 · 01/10/2018 20:47

The reason I'm so incensed by the nonsense conspiracy theories in this thread is, having volunteered for a number of years now, I know more than a handful of young people who literally wouldn't be still alive had it not been for their support. It's a complete tragedy that the people on this thread are so far gone down the rabbit hole of misinformation that they see an organisation like this as the bad guys.

The sheer heartlessness of it all is just astonishing to me.

bzzbeebzz · 01/10/2018 21:01

BridgeBuilder78 is it your opinion that charities doing good work should never be investigated or held to account?

Bridgebuilder76 · 01/10/2018 21:11

Oh buzz off

LemonJello · 01/10/2018 21:13

Scrutiny is not welcome it seems. Interesting.

Salazaar · 01/10/2018 21:19

Exactly what bridgebuilder said.
The misinformation and ignorance on this thread is disheartening. What if it were one of your kids, niece, nephew, grandchild etc... wouldn't you want a safe space for them to feel accepted?

Instead of spreading non-informed, propaganda, how about you get to the grass roots and GO to the charity, ask questions, speak to them instead of hypothesising on a subject you're not informed on?
bzz I don't see anywhere that bridge intimated not investigating or being held to account.

LemonJello · 01/10/2018 21:22

Curiouser and curiouser.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 01/10/2018 21:32

So the people on this thread who are stakeholders and friends of stakeholders who had bad experiences are to be ignored because...

I did speak to the trainer during the training. It did not help.

Eg I disagreed that women aren't penalized for being gender nonconforming. I think we often are. I cited references. It didn't make a difference.

Why would a trainer from LGBT youth Scotland ignore a lesbian standing in front of her?

SylvanianFrenemies · 01/10/2018 21:35

"Safe space", oh the irony.

A communal changing room open to any self declared woman isn't a safe space for my daughter.

A school that thinks a lesbian girl in DMs and a checked shirt is a boy, or a gay boy in leggings and nail polish is a girl isn't a safe space.

LemonJello · 01/10/2018 21:35

I see from the twitter thread BetsyM00 linked to that LGBT Youth Scotland falsified a Government endorsement on their guidelines for schools.

That’s pretty concerning. I wonder why they felt the need to do that?

Bridgebuilder76 · 01/10/2018 21:37

Seriously, please stop being tiresome keyboard warriors and go have a chat. I know that would mean you'd have to stop being keyboard warriors, but it would allay your fears. Build some bridges! See what I did there? 😉😉

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 01/10/2018 21:38

I've done that.
So am I still not allowed to chat on here?

Have you seen the way people talk about nct on here?

Dumbledora · 01/10/2018 21:39

So.. I have a hypothetical question.
As a primary school aged child (girl) I hated wearing dresses. Used to wear my brothers' sweatshirts and tracksuits. Loved climbing, football, bmx biking etc and my best friends etc were all boys. I was a classic tomboy.
If that situation was happening now - and not 35 years ago - would my parents be getting told that I was clearly transgender?

As things stand, it was just a phase, and by the time I got to senior school I had outgrown it.

Just interested, and tbh slightly terrified at how things are panning out.

Bridgebuilder76 · 01/10/2018 21:39

You became an anti-trans campaigner because you got humiliated in a training session? You gotta become a little more resilient, my dear.

SylvanianFrenemies · 01/10/2018 21:41

Tsk tsk tsk silly women. You aren't allowed to chat to other women online. Do as bridge dweller builder tells you, with yet another serving of irony.

SylvanianFrenemies · 01/10/2018 21:43

No anti trans here that I've seen. No one is trying to stop trans people living their lives. Just not at the expense of women's safety and autonomy.

Bridgebuilder76 · 01/10/2018 21:43

Dumbledora, literally noone would be telling childhood you that you were transgender, least of all LGBT Youth Scotland. If, however, you were desperately seeking support because you were transgender and noone around you would listen, charities like this would provide a safe space to be yourself, with access to qualified counsellors or youth groups to make new friends.

You needn't worry.

UnderHerEye · 01/10/2018 21:55

BridgeBuilder86

Literally, we see you, literally.

LemonJello · 01/10/2018 21:58

I’m getting the distinct impression that there are people who do not want us to talk about this.

So that obviously isn’t going to have the desired effect.

I just read that Giardian article about James Rennie. Really wish I hadn’t. Just awful.

So. Safeguarding.

breastfeedingclownfish · 01/10/2018 22:09

Indeed.

Why is LGBT Youth Scotland flogging their charter to primary school children when their 'mission' is with 13-25 year olds?

Are they encouraging the under 13s to contact their helpline? Who monitors the helpline? Surely (surely to God/fuck/whoever) they recognise the wisdom of robust safeguarding given their own organisation's history?

Bridgebuilder76 · 01/10/2018 22:11

Lol. "The distinct impression". Have you asked to talk to a manager at LGBT Youth Scotland? Or are you just more comfortable on a message board with all your pals?

Bridgebuilder76 · 01/10/2018 22:14

So many rhetorical questions, Clown.