Man in Dress listed as Top 100 FEMALE Executives

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Aaaaaaaarrrggghhhh.

Looks like his maleness was has worked for him and he gets to be recognised as a top female too.

Just why?

If Bunce has a different way of talking and personality depending on if he's Pippa or Philip then that sounds awful for the people working with him and doesn't sound psychologically healthy.
Most people by adulthood have decided on a personality and way of behaving they are comfortable with. Multiple personality disorder is now thought to be largely attention seeking.
Why can't Bunce unify all the elements of his personality so he behaves the same way most of the time rather than splitting off elements of his personality? This doesn't sound a great way to carry on for anyone.

There are lots of disordered men on the left too ....

The media right cover it from the macho male betrayal angle but wouldn't take such a strong line if it was purely women objecting to misogyny

The media left don't see it as macho male betrayal but as "male inclusivity betrayal" but again tend not to advocate for women solely in the face of misogyny

Either way, women are screwed and prevented from having many outlets for a GC feminist perspective cos the majority sex just don't count unless it's as unwitting consumerist dupes /s

If Bunce has a different way of talking and personality depending on if he's Pippa or Philip then that sounds awful for the people working with him and doesn't sound psychologically healthy.

That's the elephant in the room...

My sister didn't believe me when I told her about Alex Drummond, I tried to get her to watch that video linked up-thread but she got seriously upset and just couldn't watch it. "Widening the bandwidth of how to be a woman"

Its funny that all this crap happens to women, and not men.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6195853/Credit-Suisse-boss-dresses-woman-slammed-appearing-100-women-list.html

We get few enough awards as it is as women it would seem fairer if there could be one just for transgender people and then reserve the women in business one for those who are women. If awards don't even need you to have transitioned and indeed allow you to chop and change then that's very complicated and not very fair.

That Daily Mail article says that India was the first woman to front the all female talk show Loose Women!

vaginafetishist, I noticed that too!

India Willoughby, who was the first woman in the world to front and all-female talk show

Not the first, but the most Brave and Stunning

Maybe the first to do it properly?

Oh no R0wantrees . You had to post that youtube video

Now I've watched that awful not inspirational not authentic extract and I have that meaningless word salad running through my mind - I need gallons of and to help me forget

I used to work at CS. PB is a huge attention-seeker who has used dressing up as a woman to further his career. CS HR will never get rid of him as the minute anybody dares to even mildly challenge him in a professional capacity, he pulls out the 'discrimination' card.

He’s clearly an influential man (god help us). He has the ear of certain MP’s (sigh, many have drunk the cool aid). If he supports the “three genders”, why doesn’t he start awards ceremonies of his own to reflect this instead of trampling on women? These are clearly rigged so it wouldn’t be beyond the realms of impossibility.

Instead he and other “women”, who’ve excelled through male privilege can sit back and continue to enjoy the ride. The only difference for them is come winter they feel a bit of a draft between their legs.

I think that should say India W is the first transwoman to host an all-female talk show, no?

Yes but what a slip!

scepticalwoman

Sincere apologies, I hope that it being an autumnal Saturday night its probably the best time to have to soak away the word salad?

I can’t read this thread, it really upsets me.😡😔. What’s wrong with women championing themselves...Is this the way it is now..a man in a dress who says is a woman gets to speak for us...I can’t believe the world we live in...I’m afraid to say what I think as people will think I’m transphobic, I’m not-for me, you can do what you want when you want but don’t begin to think you speak for me and don’t think you know my business-don’t cross that line. Oh and never EVER refer to me as a CisWoman. That makes me cross. Woman will do, thanks.

I can see the future.....
Men = Men
Men dressing as woman = woman
Woman = Natal/ cis female

It makes me so mad that if literally ANY other group in society except for women were the subject of this kind of crass stereotyping and trivialising dress up play in a professional environment at work, going about putting on special little stereotyped voices and shit, (especially with a sexual undertone which is inescapable) you can bet that the culprits would be hauled up in front of HR for a very serious bollocking.

Why are women fine to to have this appropriative pisstaking done to?
Why are we expected to applaud it and budge up professionally to accommodate it?
Why is it seen as progressive in any way whatsoever.??
It’s so insulting.

Another way for men to exert their will. The bloke says he isn’t a woman but is gender fluid but yup that’s okay. If I decide to dress in a suit can I have all the benefits as a man? No I’d be laughed at and largely ignored.

That is such an excellent point Chattylion .

Imagine going into work wearing a Rastafarian hat and attached dreadlocks, with Bob Marley blasting out, and expecting to be accepted as a member of that community as you're identifying with it?

Even typing out such a stereotypical description, knowing it's going on a public forum, makes me feel uncomfortable. But Bunce has no such compunction as he doesn't view women as his equal. All they represent to him is dress up, and a group over whom he feels a natural superiority.

I think it unlikely that Bunce has MPD/DID. But he does have the markers of transvestism, a paraphillia often co-morbid with other personality disorders.

I think it is most likely that he is simply putting on a girl-ish act that he is fully aware of and in control of; a sexy porn-girl act (yuck).

MPD, now called Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), is very distinctive and once seen noone would doubt its existence.

Also DID is not discredited as attention seeking, nor is it a choice. It is a survival mechanism of a child's traumatised and overwhelmed mind. It is mostly women who are diagnosed with DID (men are likely underdiagnosed) and women suffer badly and unfairly from accusations of attention seeking and hysteria from doctors who fail to recognise the full and often lasting effects of severe childhood trauma.

It is an issue to be considered with some trans people though, and by their own admission on the internet etc, but I would hate to see DID used cruelly as a put down. Just as with anxiety, BPD or schizophrenia etc. Having DID does not preclude being an arsehole or abusing other people though obviously.

But does point to our need to accept that some transgender presentations do unquestionably have a root in mental health and personality disorders such as anti-social personality disorder (sociopathy) and narcisstic personaltiy disorder. Much as some would like us to forget that.

Bunce is supposed to be an acceptable public trans-ambasador - as was Aimee Challenor.

Just logged onto the gov.uk website to start completing the GRA consultation paper.

In the introduction, it states that a survey was commissioned amongst the LGBT community as to why individuals hadn't completed a GRA application. Many replies related to cost, unwillingness to share medical details, and what were felt to be intrusive personal questions.

But the biggest reason, 44%, was because they did not fit the criteria.

According to the consultation's preamble, the impression given is that it's a hugely bureaucratic and intrusive process, so it's the process that needs changing. But the 44% quoted above don't meet the criteria to even enter into the process.

I can't believe the government is expending such a huge amount of money and time to make a process easier for 56% of a very small percentage of the population ? Surely the real intent is to move the goalposts, so that a minimum of self ID is sufficient to legally change the most fundamental aspect of any human - male or female. How can you "change" a birth certificate. It's a historical record of what was at a given point - ie your birth. For all I care you can identify as a bloody dolphin the day after. But on that day you were male or female. Anything else is utter madness.

Everyone knows the CMS is a farce, replacing the CSA. Don't see a huge powerful movement for reform there. But then the people involved are only women, and why should they need protecting from men who refuse to financially maintain their own children? Lots of men don't engage in that process, possibly more than 44%. Where's the paper asking how the system could be improved so that more men are better able to support their children?

Ffs I have tried to post a long comment 3 times and lost it. Apologies in advance I am not going to be articulate just want to get my point out fucking iPad

Interesting to see the daily mail article had been shared by 1700 people. That's 1700 people thinking 'what the fuck?' and sharing to their contacts. That's a huge figure, I'm sure Pips would be delighted to know that more people shared an article about Pips than Princess Diana.

Then I checked out the rest of the dm website ( that's a sentence I NEVER thought I'd say) and can anyone guess the most shared page at the moment?

It's the article on the student journalist sacked for saying women don't have penises.

25000 people have shared that across social media!

I do think the tide is turning. I can remember some of us in May trying to comment on a dm article about the overnight sleeper train and our comments not being allowed. Now I don't even try to comment because 1000 gender critical people have got there before me.