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Man in Dress listed as Top 100 FEMALE Executives

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CharlieWork · 20/09/2018 21:19

Aaaaaaaarrrggghhhh.

Looks like his maleness was has worked for him and he gets to be recognised as a top female too.

Just why?

Man in Dress listed as Top 100 FEMALE Executives
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womanformallyknownaswoman · 21/09/2018 16:24

The Cuckoo Clock came from Switzerland, didn't it? Looks like they are updating the design

CAAKE · 21/09/2018 16:24

An update from @SandyDrawsBadly 😂

Man in Dress listed as Top 100 FEMALE Executives
SophoclesTheFox · 21/09/2018 16:25

You're so forceful and manly, anlaf!

Anlaf · 21/09/2018 16:25

GrinGrinGrin

FermatsTheorem · 21/09/2018 16:41

Howcansanepeople just to give you a flavour of the Alex cartoons:

Man in Dress listed as Top 100 FEMALE Executives
nicenewdusters · 21/09/2018 16:47

So, during a meeting on the days he's Pippa.

D'you think Bernard the CEO (who, as it's not Tuesday, isn't wearing his new Hobbs dress and calling himself Bernice) pats little Pippa on the knee and asks "her" to be a sweetheart and pop the coffee on?

Also, is "she" asked to pop out at lunch time to buy something for the new baby that Jackie from accounts is bringing in later ? And what about when they put the xmas decs up around the office. No standing on the ladder for little Pippa, she might fall off in those high heels of hers, and spoil her pink party dress.

And the days he's Pip. You can bet your arse he takes full advantage of the white male privilege he was BORN with. No sleepless nights for him about the real Pippas being sidelined and side eyed by their male colleagues. They can't make that go away by hanging their pink dress in the wardrobe, and wearing trousers and flats to work.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 21/09/2018 16:51

Pick n choose gender stereotypes! Yes please.

rightreckoner · 21/09/2018 16:54

CEO of Credit Suisse is Tidjane Thiam who, as a black man at the head of a major bank, is a rarity. He has had his own struggles about which he spoke very interestingly on Desert Island Discs. Guessing he would not be ok with me taking a BAME award. And yet giving women’s awards to men? Who cares?

So disappointed. But actually not disappointed because we know really who has influence and it’s not women. Sorry to all the 99 women on the list but this whole thing is just a smoke and mirrors con job. Your award is a mirage.

Fucking raging.

Ereshkigal · 21/09/2018 16:54

Yes and in a meeting she's asked "could you just take some notes Pips" and then every time someone makes a joke they say "don't minute that!" And every time an important point is made the chair or other important manager says "did you get that down"?

nicenewdusters · 21/09/2018 17:07

I just looked on his twitter account and it's all fawning and well done you. Thought there'd be some negative reaction by now ? I'm not on twitter so perhaps I'm not looking in the right place. Very tempted to join so I can tweet him.

OvaHere · 21/09/2018 17:10

I think Pips is just deleting everything negative. The Credit Suisse twitter thread was pretty much unanimously negative.

OldCrone · 21/09/2018 17:12

Try this nicenewdusters
twitter.com/CreditSuisse/status/1042723980979908608

360 comments so far, mostly saying what we're saying on here.

Howcansanepeoplesaynothing · 21/09/2018 17:15

FermatsTheorem. Bit close to the bone, there.

Thing is with many in this industry, they are incredibly driven, competitive, and borderline narcissistic in their win-at-all-cost attitude. It’s not a massive leap.

About 10 or 12 years ago, the firm I worked for hired a new head of a trading desk. Super clever, maths/quant, think grad, masters and PHD from one of the Ecoles superieurs and onto Oxbridge. In the job for about 2 months then gone. No explanation beyond, he’s no longer with the firm. Several months later he turns up in the newspapers, in court for fraud. Turns out, he got his kicks from doing exams, so touted himself to undergrads to impersonate them and actually do their exams in exam halls.

He would have been on about 400/500k in total comp per annum. 10 years ago. Risked, and lost, everything to satisfy his urge to do exams.

I am no longer surprised at what some people will do to get what they want.

Guess where I worked when that happened?

CrackpotsArePots · 21/09/2018 17:15

like the shitgibbon insult on that thread. Very creative

And the person pointing out that their dog dressed in Santa outfit wasn't actually Father Christmas

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 21/09/2018 17:17

Does anyone wonder if the men that decide to wear dresses / makeup and tell people they are therefore a woman are having a laugh / secretly GC because it's so unbelievably ridiculous?

I'd love to see what Pips says if someone asks him about the biological reality of being a woman. Periods, pregnancy, and so on. Given his responses published so far I suspect his wife in dire need of the solidarity on the trans widows thread.

Ereshkigal · 21/09/2018 17:17

Bunce has deleted his tweet that he liked earlier, hasn't he?

Ereshkigal · 21/09/2018 17:19

I wonder if Credit Suisse told him to.

FermatsTheorem · 21/09/2018 17:21

Howcan That doesn't surprise me. I haven't come across that sort of blatantly illegal thing, but the field of science I trained in had quite a few of my contemporaries move into the maths/quant areas of banking, and some of them were, mm, ethically challenged, shall we say?

One in particular amused me no end - the ultimate in poacher turned game keeper. Real champagne socialist, terribly right on and what we would now call woke when we were students, used to write to (and get replies from - as in whole ongoing conversations) various Guardian journos. Then went into banking where he spent several years creating and marketing incredibly complex derivatives bundling subprime mortgages. Somehow saw the crash coming, got out just in time, and got himself into... you guessed it, overseeing after-the-fact investigations into said sub-prime bundled derivatives. Positively teflon coated. All the time while maintaining that he was a lefty at heart...

OlennasWimple · 21/09/2018 17:24

Lacy pink dress and some fake tits with very sticky out nipples is obviously compeltely appropriate attire for a senior women working in a blue chip company Hmm

Fuck off. Just fuck off. Pip shoudl be embarrassed to take the award, not swan around in a haze of self-congratulatory media puff pieces

Ereshkigal · 21/09/2018 17:24

Risked, and lost, everything to satisfy his urge to do exams.

That is one of the weirdest self destructive urges I've ever heard of! ShockGrin

Ereshkigal · 21/09/2018 17:26

Pip should have said it wasn't appropriate to take the award. Like that would ever happen.

FrankUnderwoodsWife · 21/09/2018 17:32

I attended the FT event yesterday, and i was shocked by the stage/attention this individual.
S/He has even joined AllBright the women’s only networking club, and made a comment that he took a male guest there, who said “it’s much nicer here than I expected it to be”.
That just about summed the attitudes men have towards women.
I guess he was expecting it to be pink and fluffy and vacuous. You know cos we are just women

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 21/09/2018 17:34

I don't understand how Pips is breaking down stereotypes.
They are REINFORCING them by insisting because they want to wear a pink dress on Tuesdays, that means they are a woman on Tuesdays. Cos all women are pink and girly.

Breaking down stereotypes would be insisting that he can wear a pink dress on Tuesdays and STILL be a man.

OvariesOverBrovaries · 21/09/2018 17:34

This would be laughable if it wasn't so fucking scary.

I can imagine the new style biology lessons "nah, we don't need to mention chromosomes and reproductive systems, just tell the kids it doesn't matter what genitals you have, if they're covered by a dress you are a woman. Can you spell woman for me? That's right - C..O..S..T..U..M..E! Well done!"

It's a fucking joke. I am also trying to look on the bright side that it will peak trans many people. It really feels like someone is playing a massive joke on us.

FloralBunting · 21/09/2018 17:38

Bunce isn't breaking down stereotypes. Bunce isn't brave, Bunce isn't a trailblazer. Bunce isn't a woman.

Bunce is a shifty bloke who likes taking things away from women.

And as an aside, I'm not going to call Bunce the cutesy nickname Pips any further. Because 'Bunce' reminds me of Roald Dahl's deeply unpleasant villains, and this particular Bunce is coming across like the worst of Dahl villains.

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