Man in Dress listed as Top 100 FEMALE Executives

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Aaaaaaaarrrggghhhh.

Looks like his maleness was has worked for him and he gets to be recognised as a top female too.

Just why?

Exactly, generationex

I would quite like to see Pip's put on the spot to answer the question: what are the top five difficulties women face in city careers?

Because he won't have the first fucking idea. He's interested in diversity in as much as it permits him to come to work in a dress.

I would quite like to see Pip's put on the spot to answer the question: what are the top five difficulties women face in city careers?

I would love to see that.

And this is getting ridiculous, because I would also like to see those answers from India Willoughby, who claims

As a transsexual woman with a recognised medical condition, who fights for credibility every day, who fights myths every day, who’s undergone lengthy surgery, who’s life was unbearable in the wrong body, I find this story an insult. Transgender has become totally meaningless.

And Debbie Hayton who is also feeling the flames of backlash tickling her soles

I just hope that transsexual people can carry on living our lives in peace like we did before this erupted.

I fear our acceptance disappearing into that black hole which comes after the supernova. :-(

So many transwomen and gender fluid men disagreeing over what constitutes a woman.

I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone has to do mandatory annual training in Wokeness in the Workplace.

I laughed, and then I cried. Sure, it ain't called that, but effectively the same.

This is Pips on diversity.

Where does he mention women?

What do you want to see happen within the next five years when it comes to diversity?

I would love to see all firms embrace every single form of diversity in a holistic fashion and ensure that no type of diversity is excluded from the party. It’s vital that firms do not focus solely on a single form of diversity as to do so could be catastrophic. Having made good progress on so many fronts, it is important to ensure that firms do not take their foot off the gas pedal in making such positive progress but ensure this is in a holistic and intersectional fashion.

What I'm reading from that is not that Pip has forgotten women. He is deliberately working to de-prioritise women's issues.

ensure that no type of diversity is excluded from the party

That line in and of itself is ridiculous. And sums up the type of male who takes a women's award away from a woman.

What I'm reading from that is not that Pip has forgotten women. He is deliberately working to de-prioritise women's issues.

Of course he is, the only way you could get away with this nonsense in a professional setting is by putting your boot on the neck of women and other men cheering on the sidelines.

Re: fights breaking out under the umbrella - CharlietheFeminist posted this on the ‘is ‘Transsexual now offensive’ thread, and it’s relevant to a number of discussions (inc. the one taking place on the Debbie Hayden/Times thread).

I self ID as a boiled frog. I’m very late to the fight. I have trans friends, I refused to engage with any of the objections out of fear of letting my mates down - it was only when I realised that the trans people I knew were being mown down by genderist libertarians that I allowed myself to really engage, and then I (of course!) saw how to it this was for women and children.

India has realised that India is next up for being thrown under the bus. Tara Hudson realised it live on air on the Victoria Derbyshire show. Debbie Hayton realised very early on. Rose of Dawn saw straight through this shit from Rose’s first encounter with it, as far as I can tell.

Being anti TRA ideology is not the same as being anti Trans people. The more trans people that realise this, the better.

It’s too late in the day/too much has been lost for us all to stand together, but once women are sorted and have our rights enshrined in law, we can then stand beside the trans people that got shat on by the ideology of perverted men while they fight for their own stand alone legal protections.

(Not saying Bunce definitely IS a pervert, btw, Mumsnet, I have no way to judge)

every single form of diversity in a holistic fashion and ensure that no type of diversity is excluded from the party.

including paedophiles, rapists and other types of "unhealthy" sexual fetishists?

I wonder if Credit Suisse have any part time furries?

I would love to see all firms embrace every single form of diversity in a holistic fashion

Eh? What are the different forms of diversity. Sorry I'm laughing out loud here.

Diversity means variety.

Let's get lots of different forms of variety??

Let's make sure our variety is various!

😂😂😂

When all these men are fighting between themselves about who is allowed to be a woman…
Yes, I remember many a squabble between me and my female friends about which one of us is allowed to be a woman, said no woman ever.

GenerationEx Agree. P Bunce should be forced to workshadow a woman dealing with pregnancy and breastfeeding. Perhaps reducing 'woman' to a dress is a way to continue to fuck over women because of their reproductive biology while claiming to be inclusive.

This is Pips on women's issues. Note that he is actually unable to stay on topic and talk about issues affecting women and girls.

"If you could change one thing for women in the workplace, what would it be?

I would love to fast forward five years and see the real impact of many of our gender focused initiatives and hopefully see an equal pipeline of amazing female entering the workplace across all sectors. I do much work with school children and am pleased to see that attitudes are changing across many forms of diversity and that stereotypes are gradually being broken down to help build our female representation across STEM subjects that are so badly needed and are underrepresented.

I remember when my daughter was young, how she was told by her primary school teacher that football is not for girls and that she should not be playing it. I was horrified by such a sexist and stereotypical comments and we clearly addressed this attitude with the school as its sad to see the impact of such old fashioned views can have on our fresh pipeline of amazing new talent. Thankfully this never held our daughter back and we are now so proud of her in her role as team lead in a major retail firm

Equally, I do much work with young females (and children that identify as female) as part of the National Trans Youth Network and sadly still see the challenges being faced by such individuals. It is nice however to see the comfort they take form knowing that work places such as Credit Suisse are inclusive to all and that despite what challenges they may be facing right now, things can and will be better when these young children reach the corporate workplace and that all are accepted for who they are.

When we still have statistics where over 21,000 young adults are attempting suicide in the UK each and every year because they are being bullied for being LGBTQI, this is not acceptable and needs to change – if I could change one thing, I would eradicate all forms of prejudice and discrimination and ensure that all workplaces build a culture where all forms of diversity are equally celebrated and included ".

you were asked about women, Pip. NOt LGBTQI. Women. Your children aren't in the workplace. Gay and lesbian youth bullying and suicide aren't issues holding women back in the workplace. None of this is relevant!

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I would quite like to see Pip's put on the spot to answer the question: what are the top five difficulties women face in city careers?

I can answer that on Bunce's behalf:

1. Which frilly dress to wear.
2. Which pair of frilly knickers to wear.
3. Which pair of high heels to wear.
4. Which pair of fishnet tights to wear.
5. Which lipstick to wear.

And the thing is, what Terfsup has said isn't even facetious.

That's all Philip Bunce displays in terms of being a woman.

There is nothing else.

It's literally clothes, a wig and make up.

They can't even answer what initiatives there are for actual women and the problems they face.

Spot on terfs. Here is your Super Womanning Award For Womanning Good

I expect all that very much depends on what his wife has washed for him.

Paraphrasing Pips' answer to the question above.

Q. If you could change one thing for women in the workplace, what would it be?

A. Stop focusing on women's issues?

It’s vital that firms do not focus solely on a single form of diversity as to do so could be catastrophic.

Hoist with his own petard?

I'm quoting Hamlet, Shakespeare.

Gaaaaaah! What's fascinating is that there is actually a whole separate list for male champions for women in business: here

They could easily have put him on there if they had to (though I don't see that he's really done any campaigning for women's rights anyway).

But no - this man has to be on the women's list. Just fucking imagine if you did this to people of colour, or to people with disabilities. It's disgusting. What the hell is the FT thinking?

Sorry - male champions OF women in business.

It’s vital that firms do not focus solely on a single form of diversity as to do so could be catastrophic.

It doesn't make any sense grammatically or conceptually. But the message is I'm going to push issues to benefit me, not women.

This is making me so angry I want to cry.

How is this acceptable? Isn't it time for women to get a bit more angry and loud about this? I've had enough!!!

because Perry Grayson getting his CBE from the Palace from Charles (who was evidently not at all fazed by a bloke wearing an outfit Camilla might have chosen) has already proved that it's actually not a big deal in the 21st century.

^ Exactly.
There are way way more important diversity and inclusion issues to tackle than men who want to dress a bit differently to their peers. How has doing this now become an entry pass to actual womanhood or something noteworthy brave and stunning?

I probably can’t post about the possible sexual fetishistic aspect of this but suffice to say, other people probably have sexual fetishes too but they don’t tend to express them so proudly at work or imagine that a blow is being struck for the greater good. Some extremely effective PR work has been done somewhere.

Chatty lion, perhaps people would learn a lot more about their colleagues if Credit Suisse introduced Furry Fridays.