Transphobic US senator was sex trafficker.

[DonnaBe]

He got 15 years. Is it enough?

deadstate.org/ex-gop-senator-who-voted-for-anti-trans-bathroom-bill-gets-15-years-for-child-sex-trafficking/

"You seem to have chosen to categorise people by “biological sex

Yes, for some things this is important, is it not? Where we differentiate by sex? There aren’t that many things, but the one that there are its extremely important. The bogs are important because women are vulnerable to sexual assault from males. So there we segregate by sex. which other criteria would one segregate by? "

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Plus,

We have different toilet needs.

Men can piss in or against things standing up. They have a thing called a willy, knob or little-dicky-doo-dah like a tiny multifunction hosepipe thing they can piss out of. For this reason, for speed, comfort, to avoid queues etc many gents toilets are fitted with a trough thing or extra things a bit like basins called "urinals". There are complex man-rules around the use of urinals, about where you can and can't look and eye contact and little games with the disinfectant thingys but I don't know the detail as I'm not a man and I haven't got a little willy and I can't piss standing up.

Moving on to the other manufactured irrelevant to toilets group - women. Women have these things called periods or "exclusionary grossness" that I can't therefore talk about but has consequences from a toileting perspective. Because they are inadequately born without a little dicky-do-dah like normal people, they can't piss standing up, so always need cubicles. And special disposal facilities. That I can't talk about for bringing on a fit of the vapours in any normal strong penis-people who might be reading.

In summary. Having separate toilets for men and women on a sex basis is a pragmatic solution to our different biologcial needs and the fact that a very large minority of men are total pervy freaks and we don't want them anywhere near us thanks.

Tell us more why splitting things out on teh basis of internal feelings of gender is a MORE pragmatic solution. And SEX is totally irrelevant.

Well exactly. It’s not like I’m categorising on the basis of people’s opinion of ferrets, or whether they’ve ever been to Wigan.,

And men take 15 hours to take a shit due to their under-developed pushing muscles (so many why do they take so long to shit threads! I realised this might well be the reason!) -

We have long enough queues already without marathon male crapping going on as well.

Unless as soon as a person who is of the male sex, thinks "Man! I feel like a woman!" their shitting behaviours miraculously alter themselves by magic.

(Most men seem to only be able to crap on home turf so it may not be a huge issue - I have however twice in my life - once while heavily pregnant - waited for fucking ages for a (womens) toilet only to be confronted eventually with a smirking exiting man and a horrendous stench).

It's not an act of oppression at all - it's how we define our oppression.

In situations where we are unlikely to experience oppression, there is no need to discuss it in order to make things safer, therefore no need to use categories.

In situations where oppression is a possibility, categorization is required.

Martin Luther King et al categorised others in terms of their skin colour because that was the basis of their oppression. Biological females are oppressed because of their sex, so that is why we categorise people in terms of their sex.

It ain't rocket science you know.

I like ferrets but I know they are bitey.
I am impressed by men who put them down their trousers especially bearing in mind the sharp teeth + little dicky-doo-dah.

I have not been to wigan.

I have a cunt.

Should I be using a toilet with a urinal or somewhere to put used tampons?

Answers on a postcard please.

Note I was assigned female at birth but this was a total guess on the part of the midwife, my parents, grandparents, and anyone else who may have seen me without a nappy / in the bath. Whether I am actually a man or a woman - who can say? Not me, that's for sure.

How we choose our categories is political. You’re categorisation is both unnatural, and an act of oppression.

What do you think oppression means?

"You’re categorisation is both unnatural, and an act of oppression."

Eh?

male/female categorisation is unnatural?

In all respects? Blimey

"You’ve chosen to categorise people in a specific way. Under your system, it’s obvious that people cannot change from being in one category to the other.

My argument is you’ve deliberately chosen an unusual categorisation so you can go on to argue that nobody can change category."

You think that the reproductive categories male & female, that exist in all mammals and most animals and plants, and are the basis of the continuation of life on the planet,

Is an "unusual" categorisation?

It's the most basic fundamental categorisation there is.

Humans knew what male and female were before we had language.

You say " you’ve deliberately chosen an unusual categorisation so you can go on to argue that nobody can change category" as if it is something made up on this thread and not a categorisation innately understood by pretty much every human on the planet.

Transpeople exist. And for most purposes of daily living how they choose to identify is utterly irrelevant. This is not about believing transpeople exist. It's not about caring what they choose to be called, how they choose to dress, who they choose to have sex with. It's not about changing their beliefs about themslves

But when we segregate by sex that it is relevant. Frankly, your inability to understand why we have sex segregation at all tells me all I need to know.

"As I’ve said, how we choose to categorise is part of having free will.
In the past, people thought race and skin colour were important categories and used them to justify racism."

Just so much wrong!
This is the "colur blind" argument, right? Everyone pretends that they literally don't notice who is male and who is female and sexism vanishes overnight? Erm, it's been shown to make racism worse as it goes undercover, and is very much out of favour as an idea now.

Plus
OK so we ditch the ideas of male and female categorisation entirely. Totally entirely. There is no difference, all just people.
Great.
How do you explain reproduction.
How do you tackle global oppression of cunty people. How do you even KNOW if cunty people are oppressed and if so how much.
How do you address issues like young men risk taking / murder / suicide?
Is age a construct too? So issues about young men become just issues about "people". And then it waters it down. The % of young men affected is high. Take it across the whole population though, much lower %. Is it really an issue? Who should we target to address it? Everyone of course!
There will be things like operations happening and no-one knows what organs will be found inside. A complete surprise every time.
Men will also be VERY UPSET when it's pot luck when they dial room service for a prostitute or dial up some porn what sort of people they will end up getting.
And so on.

Google the colour blind thing.

It did NOT help and has been totally kicked out as an idea and rightly too.
All it did was IGNORE the specific challenges and discrimination and so forth that was going on.

It's nice you didn't care about the plumber. GOOD FOR YOU.
But if it was a public facility, there will have been signs placed there to warn other women. Why? Because it's a sex-segregated space and if a woman feels uncomfortable or threatened she has the right to say he is not allowed to be in there.

Please define oppression?

Why can TRA's distinguish between the meaning of your and you're? Is it some kind of metaphor?

I wouldn't advise the OP to take up any sort of animal husbandry or livestock breeding....

Will try again:

Why can't TRA's distinguish between "your" and "you're". Is it some kind of metaphor

Stand by you're man

"oh I think this bull identifies as a cow. Let's just put it in with all the heifers, after all, sex is irrelevant and only a political categorisation (and as we know cows are apolitical) and so nothing can come of it, eh?"

Or at least I thought that it's a warning saying if you are not comfy with a chap in there who is there doing an important job then please use a different toilet or wait (cleaning).

I never thought you could ask them to leave!

"I wouldn't advise the OP to take up any sort of animal husbandry or livestock breeding...."

Or to buy a pair of rabbits as pets

Oh shit there's 40million of them!
WHO could have predicted this and HOW? There is literally NO WAY to do this!

Why does nobody ever answer my simple and specific safeguarding questions? I must have asked them more than a thousand times by now.

Answer came there none. Even the NSPCC pretends I haven't asked them.

(Also, to note: a vulnerable group affected by these questions are gender-questioning children. Why can nobody tell me why these children - whom both "sides" in this argument agree are vulnerable - are deserving of fewer risk management strategies aka safeguarding measures than other children?)

Remember the lurkers. Every single time people see a statement such as 'you have chosen an unsual categorisation' some more people say hold on, wait a second, this can't be right.

You’re categorisation is both unnatural, and an act of oppression.

There is something weirdly fascinating about this level of Orwellian reversal.

In fact it's more than Orwellian isn't it? It's sort of neo-orwellian when social contagion compels people to parrot a dogma that declares biology and material reality to be unnatural whilst maintaining that oppressive social constructs are natural.

Females as the oppressers in a MALE SUPREMACY is vacousness taken to an unfortunately not unusual level when it comes to genderist ideology.

It's mental gymnastics on steroids.

Lang because there is no answer, which everyone not in the denial of wokeness knows. So instead they put their fingers in their ears and whistle a merry tune....

Why does nobody ever answer my simple and specific safeguarding questions? I must have asked them more than a thousand times by now.

Answer came there none. Even the NSPCC pretends I haven't asked them

Lang Yours and BowlofBabelfish's 'Can a human change sex?'