Ruth Hunt: Stonewall CEO

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uk.linkedin.com/in/ruth-hunt-54a4456

Student politics at Oxford

Eighteen months with
www.ecu.ac.uk/about-us/

then straight into Stonewall in 2005

She's as much a career politician as those in the HoC, who have never experienced work on the outside. Hardly surprising that she embraced the T when the LGB 'fight' was effectively over. What would she be doing now otherwise?

Continuing the 'fight' for diversity could well be viewed as another job creation scheme. Why would those involved ever want it to be over?

Ruth Hunt is also a trustee and vice chair of the charity Shelter.

From a current thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3375580-girlguiding-issue-coming-up-good-morning-britain?msgid=81297279#81297279

"Someone on Twitter has made a very good point that there are rules (when it comes to social housing at least) regarding boys and girls sharing bedrooms at home"

It is also part of housing legislation. In assessing possible overcrowding:
Section 325 of the Housing Act 1985 provides that there is
overcrowding wherever there are so many people in a house that any
two or more of those persons, being ten or more years old, and of
opposite sexes, not being persons living together as husband and wife, must sleep in the same room.
For these purposes, children under ten may be disregarded and a room means any room normally used as either a bedroom or a living room. A kitchen can be a living room provided it is big enough to accommodate a bed.
When interpreting this definition, a local authority looks at how the
sleeping arrangements within the premises could be organised, rather than how they are organised.

Thus, a couple, with two children of opposite sexes and aged ten years or more, with two living rooms (e.g. bedrooms), may not be statutorily overcrowded because the couple could occupy separate rooms, with one each of the children (of the appropriate sex) .
There is no limit on the number of people of the same sex who can live in the same room under section 325 although there may be a
contravention of the space standard"
House of Commons BRIEFING PAPER
Number 1013, 21 September 2018
Overcrowded housing
(England)

It is noteworthy that Shelter's guidelines have substituted the word 'gender' for 'sex' contrary to the legislation which could have implications:
england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/repairs/check_if_your_home_is_overcrowded_by_law

The reasons for the statuatory requirement of single sex space sleeping space for children over 10 years old should be obvious to all. This is Safeguarding and Child Protection.

OK. As soon as I have identified a local charity with a good track record of ameliorating homelessness / destitution as an alternative I will be stopping my direct debit. Thanks for the heads up.

Stonewall are everywhere. Former Stonewall people as diversity executives all over the City, public sector and charities. And they and their connected organisations are delivering training and policy advice just about everywhere.

The problem is that their policy shift towards transgender rights. Perhaps it is what happens when you are sucessful in one campaign. You need another. With power comes responsibility, and here is where the CEO needs to step up. Its fine talking the talk, but not if the talk is out of step with what most people want. This is not a rerun of the lesbian/gay equality fight. If they dont get the likes of Aimee Challenor out of their organisation soon, and start using a bit of a political nous when promoting their policies, they could end up being discredited and imploding.

If they were using their powers for good, I'd applaud Stonewall for their entryism and influence. They've been very canny about training people and then probably helping them into strategic positions.

Tallulah here is a directory of local services - www.homeless.org.uk/search-homelessness-services

Homeless Link have a lot of the smaller independent services as members.

"Today, society has moved on and Stonewall no longer needs to maintain a strict distinction between sexual orientation and gender identity. Historically, we thought it was the right thing to do. Over the last four months I’ve spoken to hundreds of trans people who say we were wrong to maintain that distinction..."

This is the key bit for me, because it says we chose to ignore gay men and lesbians, who did say that sexual orientation was different to gender identity, in favour of TRAs who want males to be able to identify as women and lesbians. Because otherwise Stonewall would have fewer reasons to still exist..........

Those of us who haven't 'moved on' (like most of society, frankly), are now on the wrong side of history and ready for re-education. I can't think of another campaign group that has managed this, to be honest. To alienate and ignore and re-educate the people that you used to be for.

Thanks Everard

I think it's a bit of a myth as well that everything is okay for LGB people - I hear this quite a lot - but there's a young woman in my family who has come out as a lesbian and she's getting grief from her dad's side of the family, there's still homophobic abuse in schools, lesbians still get the same old sexually harassing shit as always from men (of all genders!) and still have very little visibility compared to gay men. There's still so much work to do.

I can't think of another campaign group that has managed this, to be honest. To alienate and ignore and re-educate the people that you used to be for

It's not just LGB either. It's happening to intersex advocacy groups and many feminist groups (women's march anybody?) as well. It's very clever.

SomeDyke, yes, it's a fascinating volte face, isn't it? At one point it was very important to keep gender identity and sexuality separate, for sensible reasons that remain important - avoiding stereotypical prejudices and so on.

Now Stonewall has shifted the balance to the Trans lobby, which does homophobic stuff like encouraging masculine presenting lesbians to believe they are actually men, they are actively working against lesbians and gay men.

I also noticed a prevailing idea on Victoria Derbyshire this morning on the Stonewall Biphobia article that kept being repeated that practically no one is exclusively attracted to one sex. 'Everyone is at least a bit bisexual' was a message that came from the guests and the texts too. I'm Bi myself, but honestly, if these people are wondering where some of the Biphobia from the Lesbian and Gay community comes from, it's probably this insidious suggestion that "You can't be totally oriented to your own sex if you haven't met everyone in the world". It's really not far removed at all from "I'm a woman with a penis, therefore you Lesbians must consider me a viable sexual partner."

For all the 'inclusive' chatter, there's a shit ton of divide and conquer in play here.

Isn't it just. A self-propagating misinformation and propaganda campaign, inserting key players into targeted organisations, redefining words and meanings and re-educating the population.

Anyone would think it's been planned that way...

I also noticed a prevailing idea on Victoria Derbyshire this morning on the Stonewall Biphobia article that kept being repeated that practically no one is exclusively attracted to one sex. (Why can't I get bold to work when on the computer?)

And there is a big difference between people who sometimes fantasise about same sex sex and people who try to navigate the world having (had) relationships with both sexes.

Oh that's embarrassing, it didn't work in preview or on the message screen!

Everard

Oh yes. I agree things are not OK for lesbians, especially young women.

I think it's a bit of a myth as well that everything is okay for LGB people - I hear this quite a lot - but there's a young woman in my family who has come out as a lesbian and she's getting grief from her dad's side of the family, there's still homophobic abuse in schools, lesbians still get the same old sexually harassing shit as always from men (of all genders!) and still have very little visibility compared to gay men. There's still so much work to do.
Ruth Hunt doesn't give a monkey's about lesbians.
Now Stonewall has shifted the balance to the Trans lobby, which does homophobic stuff like encouraging masculine presenting lesbians to believe they are actually men, they are actively working against lesbians and gay men.
Using lesbians as cannon fodder in her stupid gender war. Of all the pieces of work championing this nonsense, I reserve my deepest rage for Hunt.
She used gay people to create an industry, to give herself a job for life and to vote herself as some sort of spokesperson for homosexuals. Then she happily throws us all under the bus when the big hitters decide trans should include anyone who feels they are a bit special. Shady organisations wave a bit of cash about and that's it, Hunt is happy to pay sex pests like Jess Bradley to produce documents that ask for the Equality Act to be repealed.
Stonewall are just a professional lobbying organisation, they are of no use to homosexual people whatsoever. They are sitting on millions in unspent funds. They are happy to be seen as the de facto face of homosexuals, businesses are happy to work with them and everyone's delighted. Slosh a bit more cash about, do a list of Stonewall approved employers, never mind that half those employers have fucked over their gay staff in one way or another. Or aren't union friendly.
Ruth Hunt should be ashamed of herself. She won't be, so I'll be ashamed of her instead. And angry at her.

Just to add: as a gay employee my union have been helpful and I advise anyone who is lucky enough to work in an environment where union membership is possible to join one.
Never rely on groups like Stonewall, they aren't accountable to anyone and they exist to self-perpetuate.

I agree that Hunt's appointment in 2014 as CEO of Stonewall is the answer to the question I know lots of people are asking: "How on earth did this whole transgender movement get its tentacles into everywhere so quickly?"

Personally, I reckon Press for Change are pulling the strings behind the scenes and using the once-respected Stonewall brand, which is Teflon-coated, to further the transgender cause.

We are right to be aware of elitist circles. There are concerns about how safeguarding for children is being worn away in various ways. There are concerns about elitist paedo rings.

current threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3384307-James-Kirkup-Spectator-lead-article-Trans-rights-have-gone-wrong-The-new-gender-orthodoxy-allows-no-room-for-dissent

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3384407-Times-letter-petition-STONEWALL-CRITICISED-undermining-women-s-sex-based-rights-and-protections-Jonny-Best-et-al

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3384455-Ruth-Hunt-Stonewall-do-not-and-will-not-acknowledge-that-there-is-a-conflict-between-trans-rights-and-sex-based-women-s-rights

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3383249-stonewall-encouraging-primary-aged-children-to-fill-in-the-gra-consultation

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard/3384045-Petition-to-Stonewall

Just archiving, by adding this link to the original thread, which it the one which comes up on Google. We don't want Ms Hunt's legacy to be forgotten/conveniently overlooked, do we?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3514190-Ruth-Hunt-is-leaving-Stonewall?watched=1&msgid=85127840#85127840