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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie Parker - brilliant rant

327 replies

MawkishTwaddle · 11/09/2018 19:41

I love this. Particularly her point about cognitive dissonance.

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DeloresJaneUmbridge · 12/09/2018 14:50

Has Posie gone from Twitter? Not seen any tweets for ages.

I don't always fully agree with her but she is making people listen and talk about important issues which is great.

UpstartCrow · 12/09/2018 14:51

Yes, she's been banned from Twitter and Mumsnet. She's on YouTube.

Datun · 12/09/2018 14:52

Posie is being hounded relentlessly precisely because she is effective.

The more support she gets the better, obviously.

tobee · 12/09/2018 14:53

Beer when I said those thoughts I meant your thoughts to clarify.

FloralBunting · 12/09/2018 15:05

I'm a woman in an hourly paid position, and not in any position to go beyond what I already do. I've occasionally considered YouTube video stuff because I'm reasonably good at verbal pyrotechnics, but I'm actually pretty sure I don't want to make myself more of an identifiable target than I already am, given the lunacy of some of the TRA actors and the fact that I have been honest about my children's involvement in the TRA movement. They have to be my priority because I haven't the slightest doubt TRAs would make them targets too.

So for now, the best I can do is employ some writing skills on here, use my voice in other places online, and have conversations with people. But, damned straight, I am very grateful for Posie using her privilege to speak out as forcefully as required. If I get to the place where I feel it's appropriate, I will be right beside her. But for now, I do what I can. No fingers pointed at anyone. We all do our bit, big or small.

OrchidInTheSun · 12/09/2018 15:08

But you are doing something Floral. Just by posting on here, you're doing something.

I am not going to put my name to anything publicly because of my job but I can hand out leaflets for FPFW. I can have conversations with friends.

tobee · 12/09/2018 15:16

I'm lucky that I'm self employed and freelance and if my opinions mean I don't get some work that's fine. But am hamstrung by being inarticulate (especially when wound up) and having a bad memory for facts. And also quite cowardly. I'm like the weedy one standing behind the bully, going "yeahhhh!"

WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice · 12/09/2018 15:25

Got to pick the kids up but have to dof my cap to you Posie. That was fucking awesome.
A half hour rant that I didnt want to end. Perfectly paced, emotional peaks and troughs. A masterpiece!
Brava!

QuilliamCakespeare · 12/09/2018 15:29

She is amazing. I've shared this as much as I dare.

Stickerladiesoftheworldunite · 12/09/2018 15:35

I do think work and children can be the Achilles' Heel for some women.

The dominant male TAs don't have that threat as they don't work or have kids.
This the stick they have used because of the wider fear of transphobia, of not being seen as inclusive.

That's why PP using the phrase about being inclusive towards women is one I'll start using too.

I also want to make sure I have quick counter arguments for key questions.

Last few days on Twitter/here I've seen

  • "Nothing will change with the GRA. TW can already access women's bathrooms. What do you honestly think will happen in schools? Nothing."
  • Suicide rates are higher in trans kids/ and trans people
  • more TW get killed than women
  • puberty blockers aren't dangerous
  • You're obsessed with genitals
  • So do you believe that any TW should be able to enter women's bathrooms. Transsexuals?
  • you're just homophobic
  • do you think trans kids pose harm to other kids in school?
womanformallyknownaswoman · 12/09/2018 15:43

Those who shun and banish Posie are no friends of true feminism - she says it like it is and doesn't bow to political corr3ctness. I may not agree with everything she says and that's OK with me. She is courageous in sticking to her values and highlighting the hypocrisy and downright stupidness of many who go along with the erosions of freedoms for women. She's highlighting the coercive control being subjected to women irl and on social media, as each restriction is imposed and a right removed, one by one - condoned by men and women alike who are incapable of, or hampered from, critically thinking.

Good on her for standing her ground in the face of hostility and dirty tactics from many sides. Good on her for expressing the outrage that we are prevented from expressing because of oppressive, politically correct and toxic regimes

LangCleg · 12/09/2018 15:58

What Woman said.

I love Posie because she is forceful and charismatic.

And because I know I could have a bloody good barney with her on our points of difference and then have a drink and carry on working for women and girls together.

OnlyObjectivity · 12/09/2018 16:07

I don’t agree that we should be asking nhs workers and teachers to speak up.

Of course they should speak up.

There's no hope at all if management are left with the impression that there's no pushback to the policies being forced through.

Clearly, going postal and losing your job isn't going to help anyone, nor will being stroppy and antagonistic. But staff can - and should - record and escalate the problems being experienced by service users in the face of such policies.

OrchidInTheSun · 12/09/2018 16:22

The reasons the TRAs don't have jobs is not because they're trans. It's because they're self-absorbed wankstains with over-inflated egos fuelled by our political parties and social media.

Asking organisations to comply with legislation laid out in the Equality Act is not actually illegal or hate speech or Naziism in action. It's asking them to comply with UK law, not a policy made up by some right on kids who are intent on throwing away the rights of the next generation.

OlennasWimple · 12/09/2018 16:59

I was going to say that most TRAs are unemployable in most professions, but perhaps Orchid put it better than that Grin

farfallarocks · 12/09/2018 17:01

Why was Posie banned from MN?

Cascade220 · 12/09/2018 17:14

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deepwatersolo · 12/09/2018 17:22

Why was Posie banned from MN?

Because (according to a post earlier in this thread) Posie apparently announced that she'll drink a bottle of champaign through her nose when Stella Creasy comes up with a definition of trans (apparently while Stella was on MN for questions).

It won't be long and asking for a definition of 'woman' will get us social minus points, like they do in China.

Ariclock · 12/09/2018 17:25

I didn't realise that unemployment rates for autistic people and those with mental health problems are so high. Sad

Cascade220 · 12/09/2018 17:35

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speakingwoman · 12/09/2018 17:36

"already there's a smell of sickness in the room...."

RaininSummer · 12/09/2018 17:38

Beautiful rant Posie.

carbuncleonapigsposterior · 12/09/2018 17:48

I thought she was brilliant, I made my husband watch it. Just wondering why she has been banned from MN Sad

BrendasUmbrella · 12/09/2018 17:51

Just what side are you on @MNHQ?

MN are attempting to stay as an open resource for anyone, but it's leaving both sides unsatisfied. The Mums of Mumsnet are not the people who are trying to sabotage their sponsorships.

I saw my first "inclusive" women and everyone else toilet the other day, around the corner from the non inclusive men's toilet. And the queue for the inclusive loo was out of the door, but please everyone else feel welcome to join the queue for our inadequate services!

deepwatersolo · 12/09/2018 17:55

I saw my first "inclusive" women and everyone else toilet the other day, around the corner from the non inclusive men's toilet.

As if it was a law of nature that it is always the women's toilet that is inclusive, not the men's. Posie was so right to switch that.

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