Lily Madigan again. UK Woman's Officer thinks transwomen can get pregnant now.

[DJLippy]

I have no words
twitter.com/madigan_lily/status/1039305017860259840

It's not the original comment that affects me it's the comments section. I thought female erasure was a metaphor - not literal reality.

To think these campaigners are driving public policy. The comments section is truly terrifying.

If you LM blocked you see this

twitter.com/weseeyou12/status/1039512887578906624

Women’s hearts can’t deal with being transplanted into Male bodies?

There is something sadly poetic there.

Poor girl, someone should help her really. In either case. It's not normal

Girl?

This person with male genitals is 20. And a half. 21 in a few months.

Slightly off topic but that's the first time I've seen the terms transmasc and transfemme.

It strikes me that they are more accurate terms than transman/woman as they suggest the person has transitioned to masculinity or femininity, rather than changed sex to man or woman (which most of us don't believe is biologically possible).

Masculinity and femininity have elements of social construction so there will still be arguments about how they are defined but I think it's easier to accept someone wanting to live as the opposite of what they were born as, rather than [not] believing they are actually the opposite sex.

Are the terms transmasc and transfemme commonly used in the trans community? What is their definition?

Medical science is being vastly overestimated here.

Exactly. You can take pretty much any small aspect of pregnancy and it will pose huge, possibly insurmountable challenges for scientists to transfer that into the male body to have a chance for a healthy child to develop. Jesus, we often can't even properly metabolically engineer bacteria like E.coli to make them do what we want.

If science should ever get to 'pregnancies in male bodies', it would still be an endeavour where your chances are heavily against a viable, let alone healthy child, with a lot of 'errors'.
I very much doubt that ethicists would ever give the green light for experimental procedures like that particularly in humans. It is not like a heart transplant, where doing nothing would mean death anyway and, therefore, risking death by transplant instead is an acceptable risk in comparison.

Yea I was being ironic with the girl comment. I know LM is a man.
Seriously though, he needs some sort of intervention

When can we expect free NHS womb transplants for 'trans' men to be an official Labour policy?

If you put a womb into a man, that's not a transplant, it's an implant. It's not replacing one organ with another like it.

Where is the blood supply going to come from? It's not just an organ implant, then: it's a replacement circulatory system.

Then, how do you regulate the menstrual cycle? Okay, let's replace the hypothalamus while we are at it.

So, new womb, new circulatory system, new brain. We are pretty much in Trigger's Broom country now with most of the original human being replaced.

And for what? The ova belong to the womb donor so any kid produces is genetically hers, not the transwoman.

So you'd have to replace the nuclei with those of the host. But that would mean any fertilised egg would carry two sets of paternally imprinted genes.

Tldr; just buy a fucking doll and pretend it's a baby.

Anybody encouraging their child to transition in the belief that science will one day help them become a grandparent might as well buy the kid some fags because one day science will mean they can get a lung transplant during their lunch hour.

I'll make that point again: TRAs might think that sex is assigned at birth but your body knows otherwise. All the ova you will ever produce in your lifetime are produced before you are born. Any recipient of that womb is going to have your babies, not theirs.

Brain transplants will be around before this stuff is, and they're still science fiction at the moment.

(God help women if they're ever possible.)

Maybe the Singularity will come along anyway and we'll just upload our consciousness into cyberspace and just programme a virtual body.

Or maybe we can just catch a Genie and he'll grant us three wishes.

They are conflating the intersex lady who received surgery and conceived with a doctor claiming that trans women could get womb transplants in ten years, because as I am sure you are aware TRAs are determined to barge themselves into the intersex umbrella.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11381463/Woman-born-with-no-womb-gives-birth-to-miracle-twins.html

Womb transplants for trans women would be illegal under current act as it would lose significant risk to the foetus.

If Lily does ever get pregnant he should be forced to pop out a 9lber through his penis.

This might well be trolling, but sarcasm or deadpan humour has to be actually funny or it misses the mark. Considering this is the type of shit that is regularly peddled as truth by this imbecile, it’s not far fetched to think that young kids and particularly thick adults might believe it. Not everyone applies critical thinking skills.

Not that I for a second believe this is trolling Madigan is far too stupid.

The only way that an ova would contain the genetic material of the transwoman is if the nucleus was replaced by that of a sperm cell, so they'd have to have some stored away when they have the op.

Then all they'd need is a father who produces sperm with ova nuclei.

Because there's tonnes of them around.

Here have a paracetamol and shut up.

That’s the most apposite and pithy summing up of my post-CS postnatal ward experience ever!

They’re not wittering on about ass babies again are they? That’s gonna smart when it comes out...

Zinnia whatever his name is would cope with a bum baby, I’m sure.

And do they think they could breastfeed those fictional babies?

Gulags will become the new shopping centres

This is entering Handmaid's Tale territory.

Gender constructs again. I never wanted children or planned for them, I didn't have that picture they paint of wanting a kids or home. It's taking another stereotype, fawning over babies.

I do have kids - in fact I have twins - so I'd like to see the trans body contort like mine did to accommodate 5ft of bump at 39 weeks.

Tra's would actually be better off putting their eggs in the brain transplant basket. Then MtF and FtM could do a body swap.

It's more likley then getting a womb to work in a man.

Now I think about it that's pretty scary.

I think they take the phrase 'the miracle of childbirth' too literally.

Here's the other link to my earlier comment. Note, final paragraph "It would be illegal to implant an embryo (or indeed, a man)"

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/life-style/men-pregnant-womb-transplant-dr-richard-paulson-transgender-a8037201.html%3famp

Stickerladiesoftheworldunite.. your username is killing me 🤣🤣🤣 no I mean it stop, literal violence

He added that while people born as men and those born as women have different shaped pelvises there would nevertheless be room for an implanted womb.

I don't doubt that men could squeeze a womb in there, but what about a 7lb baby, plus placenta, plus emneotic fluid?