Goldsmiths LGBT society says feminists should be sent to a gulag.

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Goldsmiths, home of witch hunting transwoman Natasha Kennedy needs to sort itself out.

Last night they started harassing a load of 'T*rfs' on Twitter and then today they suggested they might like to spend some time in a gulag - before going on to write a rather long, propaganda piece in their defense.

twitter.com/lgbtqgold/status/1039140880731521025.

I didn't think leftists like this actually existed.

Is this a real account?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3359116-The-Times-smear-campaign-by-trans-lecturer-at-Goldsmiths

Wouldn't it be lovely if whatever replaces the group currently being investigated wasn't actively hostile to lesbians?

Wouldn't it be lovely if whatever replaces the group currently being investigated wasn't actively hostile to lesbians?

Oh, I think they're equal opportunities scum, and are actively hostile to many more groups than just lesbians.

And of course, this being the woke left, a disproportionate number of the victims of the Gulag were Jewish and therefore the woke Goldsmiths students can get their jollies from a bit of implicit anti-Semitism, too.

The narrative of both Nazi and Communist anti-Semitism was that Jews were lazy and unproductive and therefore needed to be worked, if necessary to death, to prove this "point". A common holocaust denial trope is to make out that the concentration camps were actually just places of work for those legitimately punished, and any deaths that might inadvertently have happened were caused by disease, itself caused by advancing Allied troops disrupting food supplies.

It's of a piece with that to claim something roughly similar for the gulags: legitimate work, for the lazy and feckless. Who were, by an amazing piece of happenstance, disproportionately Jewish.

But dressing it up as a legitimate penal policy rather than what it was, you can claim that the victims had it coming to them.

Disgraceful. But anti-Semtism is now pretty much mainstream on the left.

The additional benefit of the anti-Semitism row is that every time its talked about, neither the Tories nor Labour are talking about austerity. Which suits the purposes and current agenda of both parties.

The additional benefit of the anti-Semitism row

Using the word "benefit" in its broadest and most colloquial sense, I guess.

But yes, the Tories are happy to watch Labour tear themselves to pieces.

Benefit politically to both Labour and Tories. And yes I do see it as beneficial to Labour.

Made the LGBT press... now that is surprising.

www.gaystarnews.com/article/well-send-you-to-the-gulag-lgbti-student-group-tells-intersex-advocate/#gs.uRic2IU

Made the LGBT press... now that is surprising.

There's a lot less advertising revenue for the tankie market than there is for the wider pink pound.

The person they threatened to send to the gulag is an intersex advocate? Oh dear.

(I think they're also the person who contacted all the UK train operating companies to confirm that the razors under stickers thing was bollocks - sterling work there!

Made the LGBT press... now that is surprising.

Not Prick News though?

Thecat I do actually vaguely know a couple of people in marketing at Goldsmith’s. Thats probably not a bad description!

There's a lot less advertising revenue for the tankie market

Don't worry, I believe this is being worked on by Ash Sakar, Owen Jones and Friends.

The Daily Mail has now picked this up.

Goldsmiths has long had a reputation for allowing Islamism to flourish in their ISOC- so it's interesting that freedom of speech (which is how they defended the questionable speakers that the ISOC invited to events on the campus) is now apparently only relevant when it's the right sort of speech

That’s hardly fair.

I may reconsider in the light of the very prompt action from GSU.

My first consideration is always to the awesome people I already work with.

Left wing, right wing, they're both as mad as a box of frogs. Politics isn't a line from left to right. It's a circle where far left and far right meet in an orgy of imbecility.

I did my MA there 10 years ago.
It was fun. There’s no way anyone I knew, teachers or students (over 60% mature?) would back this nonsense.

I am impressed by the prompt attention given to the problem.

I was starting to think about taking my entire degree off my CV 😉

Goldsmiths have shut the LGBTQ+ society and released a statement blaming it on a rogue student / group.

Why does this kind of stuff keep coming out of Gorldsmiths, though? They don't deal with that at all, or even acknowledge it.

Yesterday, Monday 10th September, a member of the LGBTQ+ Society with access to their Twitter account posted tweets containing offensive material. We condemn the abhorrent content of the tweets and they are in complete opposition to the views and values of the Students’ Union.

The Society have broken multiple Union policies and procedures, including failing to adhere to our code of conduct, and we have issued multiple requests for the group to delete the tweets. As such, the Society have been suspended and disaffiliated from the Students’ Union, pending investigation.

Societies are autonomous groups that operate with support of the Students’ Union, governed by our policies and procedures, but their views and behaviour is led by independent groups of students.

Following this, we will ensure that there is other support in place for LGBTQ+ students, including those starting at Goldsmiths later this month, by building networks and facilitating events led by our LGBTQ+ staff and students.

www.goldsmithssu.org/news/article/6013/Statement-on-LGBTQ43-Society/#.W5fVf0FjQDJ.twitter

New Statesman coverage (brief, not in-depth):

What springs to mind when you think of Soviet gulags? Employment rights, freedom of expression and amateur theatre, surely?

This is the nostalgic alternative reality voiced by the students who run the official Twitter account of the LGBTQ+ Society at London’s Goldsmiths University.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2018/09/compassionate-non-violent-course-action-goldsmiths-university-students-defend

Oh look, there appears to be an opening for a new person to lead the LGBTQ+ group at Goldsmiths.....

Some of the articles about this look to me like the beginnings of exactly the kind of backlash against gay rights as a concept that some of us were worried would happen. As the public starts to realize what total nonsense TRAs are peddling that's who they're going to blame (along with feminists).

I still reckon it was a GC infiltrator wot dunnit to discredit the rainbow unicorn TRA brigade.

Do you think the Marketing department might resemble an episode of 'The Thick of It'?

I bet

There’s no way anyone I knew, teachers or students (over 60% mature?) would back this nonsense.

There are a bunch of London colleges which historically were niche, and heavily dominated by mature and/or post-graduate (or people doing MAs without a first degree on the basis of experience) students. The obvious example is Birkbeck, but SOAS and Goldsmith are similar. They didn't, and don't, have a full range of subjects, but they were bloody good at the subjects they did have. The ones I've named happened to be validated by London, although in other parts of the country similar institutions were historically validated by the CNAA. Conservatoires. Teacher training. Jewellery and Silversmithing. Printing. Specialist places.

More recently, they have attempted to recruit a lot more 18 year olds, and to become more general universities, with their own royal charters. But most 18 year old students stay well away - they opt either for live away universities or for larger urban post-92s - and the postgraduates and the mature students aren't interested in SU wankery.

Even of the 18 year olds, a lot of them are there to do the thing the university is famous for - music and fine art at Goldsmiths, isn't it? - and similarly want little to do with the SU. They're doing top-rated courses at a place top-rated for that subject, and are too busy playing the piano, carving wood or whatever it is they are passionate about.

So Goldsmiths SU is ripe for entryism by a small clique of people interested enough to get involved, privileged enough to be able to afford to get involved, and dim enough that a poorly regarded course at a second- or third-tier university with no particular reputation for it is the best they can get onto. English at Goldsmiths? Why aren't you, well, anywhere else? But UCL, for a start off?

That's a perfect storm for entryism and stupidity.

We are moving towards a position where there are only two choices: firstly, an ultra-authoritarian left that punishes people for wrong think and actually isn't really joking about shunning and gulags; secondly, a far right that will take out all the gains we (women, gays and lesbians, black and brown people) have won with our blood and sweat

The left wing in the UK is currently a dangerous joke but part of that extremism is I think as a result of portraying anyone to the right of centre as a far right bogey man.