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James Kirkup on the Green Party's meltdown

100 replies

TimeLady · 04/09/2018 09:32

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/how-caroline-lucas-fell-foul-of-the-transgender-thought-police/

Go James!

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Beerincomechampagnetastes · 04/09/2018 10:14

Excellent. I’m off to organise a subscription.

Thank you James

RedToothBrush · 04/09/2018 10:15

This article about Labour in general, again the Speccy, is well worth a read.

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/in-the-cult-of-corbyn-dissent-will-not-be-tolerated/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
In the cult of Corbyn, dissent will not be tolerated

Never take your political ideas from comedians. They want to make you laugh, not think. Like all movements the far left can splinter in Pythonesque fashion. But its dominant characteristic has been obedience to leadership cults around Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot and Chavez, accompanied by ‘party mindedness’ or patrinost, as Lenin called it: the absolute faith in the party, whatever it did. Intellectual honesty and consistency becomes impossible in these circumstances. Leon Trotsky told doubters in 1924, before Stalin made him regret his words, ‘We can only be right with and by the party, for history has provided no other way of being in the right.’ Even if the party behaves unjustly ‘it is my party, and I shall support the consequences of the decision to the end’.

Scary stuff.

carceralfeminist · 04/09/2018 10:17
Grin Cannot stop laughing. Thanks James for the fabulous piece! So so good.
LatinForTelly · 04/09/2018 10:20

Try clearing cookies and clicking the link. For some reason, it let me read the article and I don't have a subscription, nor have I registered (though I really should).

Great article. Loved the 'some might think... but I couldn't possibly comment' tack. And 'someone using the name Adrian Harrop and claiming to be an NHS doctor'. Ha ha

Also this bit on Lucas being added to Terfblocker, " So it’s official: Caroline Lucas, Green leader and champion of transgender rights, is a Terf whose words must not be heard. That’ll teach her to watch her mouth, eh lads?"

Great article.

YogaDrone · 04/09/2018 10:22

Great article, thanks (again) James Wine

Datun · 04/09/2018 10:23

Harrop too ludicrous to be anything other than parody.

Grin
BeyondAnOmnishambles · 04/09/2018 10:26

Yay, I'm in :)

Love James' writing. Not only is he right, but it's so well written that it's genuinely an enjoyment to read. Cheers, James! Wine

EmeraldVillage · 04/09/2018 10:47

He is clearly getting increasingly exasperated with the behaviour of the TRAs

hackmum · 04/09/2018 10:50

That was utterly brilliant. James just gets better and better.

I do hope little Adrian's employers are Spectator readers (though somehow doubt it).

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 04/09/2018 10:53

Thanks for this James! Very well put together and very funny.
I have forwarded the article far and wide.

HavingALittleBabyToolshed · 04/09/2018 10:54

I have forwarded the article far and wide.

Including to a certain deanery.

arranfan · 04/09/2018 10:55

If AH and AH's 'responsible officer' have had a chat about his social media profile (as seems reasonable) then this must be profoundly irritating for the GMC.

AH isn't modifying his social media activities but seems to be doubling-down on the misogyny, veiled threats, and mansplaining. There are probably procedural steps to follow. This can not end well for either AH nor the designated officer if no attempt is made to escalate the advice/instruction for AH to adhere to standards of public life and professionalism.

BeUpStanding · 04/09/2018 11:02

Brilliant brilliant brilliant! Thank you James, you're an absolute Star

ChiaraRimini · 04/09/2018 11:04

@RedToothBrush yes. Demands for unquestioning loyalty should always be a red flag. See also Donald Trump.

mimivanne · 04/09/2018 11:09

Bravo James

iamawoman · 04/09/2018 11:15

Brilliant I love the fact that he mentions the stupidity of haddock face . Summed it up very nicely

BoreOfWhabylon · 04/09/2018 11:22

I already started a thread about this befoore I'd seen this one. The takedown of Harrop is indded glorious.

I do so hope the Responsible Officer, the Deanery and the GMC are made aware.

James, if you read this, I hope you will,consider writing further about the self-appointed medical Witchfinder General. We have collated much material.

gendercritter · 04/09/2018 11:30

I think this is brilliant. Roared at seeing Harrop get some attention.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 04/09/2018 11:58

It's official: I am in love with James Kirkup. Incisive, thoughtful, articulate and just bloody-well totally right. What's not to like?

Thank you so very, very much James! Most especially for the Haddock take-down. Very amusing

MnerXX · 04/09/2018 11:59

All 3 articles are well worth a read. We are living in some scary times at the moment.

TheCraicDealer · 04/09/2018 12:04

That’ll teach her to watch her mouth, eh lads?

Straight to the nub of the issue. Bravo, James!

arranfan · 04/09/2018 12:05

If AH is officially reprimanded by the GMC, AH is possibly hoping to become a Trans Ally Martyr and in-demand public speaker (tho' that niche is becoming a bit crowded).

In reality, is that happened, AH might have been reproved for a lack of commonsense and failing to observe professional standards when it comes to public-facing social media accounts despite advice to the contrary.

RedTopReadingHystericalMass · 04/09/2018 12:06

James, 🏆

Thank you.

yellowsnowissnowjoke · 04/09/2018 12:08

One to share on FB! Bloody brilliant.

SugarButterFlour · 04/09/2018 12:16

Thank you James!