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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Green Party thread 3

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FermatsTheorem · 30/08/2018 17:21

Previous thread here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3347925-Green-Party-statement-continuation-thread?pg=40

Will post links to AC's public statement and Caroline Lucas's appalling white wash job in a moment, but for me, Andrew Gilligan nails it yet again:
twitter.com/mragilligan/status/1034776005326581767

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MsMcWoodle · 03/09/2018 20:35

Just seen this on twitter. I can't vouch for it - but worth investigation?

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carceralfeminist · 03/09/2018 20:39

catfromjapan
I am feeling VERY disquiet about the prospect of automated GRA response systems now....

Anlaf · 03/09/2018 20:44

CAROLINE LUCAS HAS BEEN ADDED TO TERFBLOCKER

Jesus fucking wept

WHAT

I'm laughing

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/09/2018 20:46

Oh thank goodness anlaf

I was sat here sniggering and i just thought i was being mean (by myself...thats no fun)

You reap what you sow Ms Lucas

thecatfromjapan · 03/09/2018 20:50

I do think you'd need a heart of stone not to laugh.

Anlaf · 03/09/2018 20:52

It's the inevitable conclusion innit though?

Eventually you block your....boss?

ShrodingersSturdyPyjamas · 03/09/2018 20:52

We have had a good old snork at this tonight.

FlintyBadman · 03/09/2018 20:53

If OJ is deleting tweets where he uses the term TERF then he missed one.

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/793160382596706304

LangCleg · 03/09/2018 20:55

Personally, I think someone needs to halt the current GP GRA automatic response form.

Actually, yes. This is really important. Anyone on Twitter should be tweeting at all the main party apparatchiks about this.

Who do we email at parliament to alert the authorities that the Green "survey" is actually an automated consultation submission with answers prepared, so I understand, by Aimee Challenor?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 03/09/2018 20:55

The Challenors have made a lot of FOI requests, I'm not certain this is DC but it is interesting:

www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/do_excemptions_extend_to_contect#incoming-1118527

All requests by Challenors: www.whatdotheyknow.com/search/Challenor/all

BobHolness · 03/09/2018 20:56

MsMcWoodle Here you go

Procrastinator1 · 03/09/2018 20:57

Good find, Flinty.

LangCleg · 03/09/2018 20:57

This is what a massive safeguarding fail looks like in real time.

And yes, yes it is.

This will be happening everywhere if the current push to eliminate safeguarding succeeds. I'm not exaggerating. It will be everywhere. And it won't be anything to do with transsexuals.

CesiraAndEnrico · 03/09/2018 21:00

I can't link but a Dr Clare Jones (janeclarejones) has just stated on twitter that they've put Carolyn Lucas on Terf Blocker

You turn your back for one afternoon/evening... and all hell breaks out.

Well this should kick things up a notch in the press.

Popchyk · 03/09/2018 21:01

Yep, why not just chuck in another 1000 pre-filled questionnaires to the government with fake names? The government will never know. Actually do you even have to put in your name? Probably not.

I said exactly the same about the Scottish questionnaire.

Anybody can fill it in multiple times and guess what, there is nothing to stop anyone from doing that.

A consultation about a system with no checks and balances is itself a system with no checks and balances. And open to infiltration and fraud. I did point that out forcefully.

Seems like they will take people's word for it that they are who they say they are. Which is simply unacceptable.

I think we will need to write to the government and ask how they will prevent the consultation from being infiltrated by those people who are completing it multiple times and those organisations who are pre-filling answers.

If we can demonstrate that the consultation itself is open to widescale fraud then surely some MPs will see that self-ID is exactly the same.

thecatfromjapan · 03/09/2018 21:01

LangCleg someone told me Ollie Perkins.

Is that right, everyone?

Could someone start a thread to suggest it to people?

I would but I'm having a flare up and my communication skills are a bit patchy.

I might fail to get the point across.

Go on , Lang, you are admirably clear on this issue.

thecatfromjapan · 03/09/2018 21:03

About emailing Ollie P to not recognise legitimacy GP automated form.

See - I make no sense. ☹️

MsMcWoodle · 03/09/2018 21:06

Thanks Bob Holness and Itsallgoingtobefine. Obviously about their own kids then, no just scoping out the schools...

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 03/09/2018 21:06

Stonewall are doing the same thing:

www.stonewall.org.uk/our-work/campaigns/come-out-trans-equality

Although I think that unlike GreenLGBTQgrjsiwb++ one, Stonewalls actually links in directly to the consultation.

TimeLady · 03/09/2018 21:11

I think they've got wind of your trello document, Cesiro, and an almighty panic has set in.....Wink

Itllallcomeoutinthewash · 03/09/2018 21:12

Wait. Wait wait wait. Aimee has put Caroline Lucas on a terfblock? Caroline Lucas? Green Party Caroline Lucas?

HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Tea just came down my nose.

arranfan · 03/09/2018 21:17

Aimee will be looking for gainful full time employment and an alternative career plan.

AC is in 1st Year of studying a degree in PPE with Open University according to AC's Guardian interview...Maybe a phoenix-like renewal will be possible at some point, after all J Bradley has left a vacancy with the NUS in a subject close to AC's heart political career

carceralfeminist · 03/09/2018 21:17

Yep, why not just chuck in another 1000 pre-filled questionnaires to the government with fake names? The government will never know. Actually do you even have to put in your name? Probably not.

Some individuals probably have access to databases with a lot of real names.....

Charliethefeminist · 03/09/2018 21:20

Ollie Entwistle is head of Equalities

Charliethefeminist · 03/09/2018 21:21

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