Linda Bellos prosecuted in private by trans activist **Thread title edited at OP's request**

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It's a private prosecution by an activist who wasn't at the talk but watched it online. CPS declined to take the complaint further but this individual decided to take out a private action.

“And I WISH middle aged men would stop with the flowers in their hair and sultry poses...they look ridiculous and nothing like the ethereal waifs they think they do.”

More like Jame Gumb from Silence of the Lambs.

I’d like to donate to a crowdfunder, too. I don’t care who she’s friends with, she shouldn’t have to deal with this.

Some interesting heros are emerging. Linda Bellos, the Daily Mail, Victoria Atkins, Man Friday, Mumsnet.

This is increasingly about the right to free speech. The issues themselves are important, but the right to debate is vital.

Happy to contribute.

I'm in too. Not a feminist so never knew anything about Linda Bellos until this last 18 months. She's awesome and I so want to be as fearless and confident as she is.

Dr Radfem is also being privately prosecuted for live streaming these comments.

Who the fuck is funding all this legal stuff ?

I imagine it's hard when you're an unremarkable middle aged white man yet you need to be more oppressed than everyone else to feel special.

Who better to attack than a 'disabled pensioner' who made a remark not directed towards you or even vaguely in your presence and was actually a response to an actual physical attack on another older woman perpetrated by a violent TRA?

If this goes anywhere - at all - GC feminists are in for a pay day given the amount of targeted, personal abuse we've received directly on the internet for TRAs, probably including the one in question...

• from TRAs not for!

Re: funding there's a good thread on feminism chat about it with some illuminating articles (sorry can't link to it right now as I'm on the app)

Gender Critical Legal Fun
great idea,

Will donate to DrRad and Linda legal fund and any GC legal fund.

Apparently, the court can - but may not - order prosecuting costs to be paid similar to Legal Aid for defence:

www.emmlegal.com/fraud-prosecution/what-is-a-private-prosecution/

Does this lay the ground for TRAs to be prosecuted for their death threats and incitements to violence?

There is no need to ground work. There is already a substantial case to be made in my opinion.

The only thing stopping the possibility of feminists pursuing a private prosecution is

a) the desire to do so, particularly in a climate of intimidation b) the money.

That doesn't mean a feminist case would win (anymore than a TRA one). Its just that the ability to do so, very much exists and is a potential course of action.

FWIW feminists would be better not to go for a case based in threats/violence against them initially, but to go for a case against a private organisation or public institution who is currently in breach of the protecting the sex characteristic of the Equality Act.

An 'attack on the individual' which a case on violence / intimidation would be framed as is more risky, in case they lose.

Focus on the issue and the politics, not the personal.

Going after the personal is a sign of weakness and desperation. Try to keep that in perceptive.

I would be honoured to contribute to a crowdfunder for Linda's defence

Me too. Can someone please post any appropriate links when available.

This is the charge against me

I'm so sorry Venice. All you are doing is trying to protect women and girls. You have done so much for women and we will have your back.

Malicious communication? FFS.

Please set up a crowdfunder, Venice.

RedToothBrush: "There is no need to ground work. There is already a substantial case to be made in my opinion.

The only thing stopping the possibility of feminists pursuing a private prosecution is

a) the desire to do so, particularly in a climate of intimidation b) the money. "

In that case, is there any reason why we couldn't simply go to the police and ask them to make a case to the CPS? Why does it have to be a private prosecution?

It's actually going to benefit the GC cause, although it's hard for you Venice. The thumping Maria got will be central and aired publicly and centrally when it's reported on.

Sorry not very coherent! It's evening here

I'm in for Venice, too.

I'm entitled to legal aid, hopefully Linda is too

The outrageous, fucking NERVE of that charge against Venice - when the bloody internet is awash with menacing, threatening, hateful, abusive posts towards women by TRAs - is staggering.

Tanith re simpering and flowers I just knew I was doing my womaning all wrong! I will get myself to the florists forthwith! It’s as Ariel Levy states about the positioning of women, that to please the patriarchy we need not just to get it ‘right’, but to show that we are actively seeking to get it ‘right’.

Dr Rad, I just can't tell you how sorry I am. This sadism has to stop.

Awful and bullying. The accusation is bad enough, but the process with be timeconsuming and stressful.

Do set up.a crowd funder and find someone good to represent you. Hopefully this can be stopped quickly.